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Another GTX 295 would definitely be the best cost effective route. But are you not at all interested in the DX 11 games on the horizon? Let alone just plain ol' "new" gpu architecture/power consumptions of the latest GPU's.
    
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Granted you might lose some performance with the GTX 560 Ti's you'll gain DX11, isn't much of a selling but something to consider. If you were in the states you could get a GTX 590 with 700 USD that sucks bro.
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Have you checked out the gtx 580 Lightning? It should be able to hit 1ghz on air with reasonable temps assuming you don't get an absolute dog of a GPU.

Should be hitting e-tailers in less than a week, at least that's the impression I get from reading MSI Alex's posts.

Only problem I see with it is its size, the thing is massive!

http://www.overclock3d.net/reviews/g...tning_review/9
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Originally Posted by AllLeafs View Post
Another GTX 295 would definitely be the best cost effective route. But are you not at all interested in the DX 11 games on the horizon? Let alone just plain ol' "new" gpu architecture/power consumptions of the latest GPU's.
I am very much interested in DX11 but both Fermi and DX11 architecture themselves are too inmature at this point to use the new technology at its peak.

Kepler will be especially be designed in both its core structure and architecture to use DX11 at the maximum ...and by the time Kepler is released DX11´s development will be mature enough to allow that.

But until then I need a disposable temporary gpu solution that will deliver great performance and be in the 720$/500€ price range.

Let´s put it this way.....

GTX 295 Quad>GTX 580,570.560SLI,480,6970

Is there anything that will result in >GTX 295 Quad? with 720$
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Are the prices by you that high? 720USD will buy you two 570s no problem. Which is why I suggested them.

Where are you located?
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post #16 of 34
Nothing in your price range will match 295 SLI.

You could try the GTX 460 2Win but it still won't match quad SLI 295s.

Also DX11 won't be much more matured in 7 months. Don't count on it.
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Originally Posted by blackbalt89 View Post
Nothing in your price range will match 295 SLI.

You could try the GTX 460 2Win but it still won't match quad SLI 295s.

Also DX11 won't be much more matured in 7 months. Don't count on it.
I live in Austria close to Germany.
In my country a 570 costs around 310€ / 430$.
It´s because all the manufacturers are located in the states our local retailers have to include shipping,taxes etc with the price to actually make profit.

At this point DX11 is highly inmature in both its coding and further development.
Fermi on the other hand wasn´t even intended to be used for the extreme operation with DX11, just because the card features DX11 everybody automatically assumes it can fully use it as well.
In my oppinion it is the last generation and not really worth to be even considered in the face of the upcoming Kepler arrival.

I am not sure but very confident that by then the DX11 development will have greatly evolved compared to its current status.
Also the fact that Kepler will be specifically designed to operate at high levels of DX11 reinforces that belief because I am sure that the developers will then synthesize their coding with the Kepler architecture to facilitate better compatibility and more efficient use of it.


But enough about Kepler right now my problem seems unsolvable
I was really confident that a newer GPU solution could beat my old setup.
What if we put gaming experience(smoothness,MS,AA etc )into the picture?

Some said GTX 580 single non reference ....hmm
Maybe some used 570´s in SLI would be the solution?
I am not sure ...hmm
But there is really nothing else out there that could equal the GTX 295 Quad´s performance ...hm
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post #18 of 34
Isn't a single 295 ~= a 480 (minus DX11 of course)?

SLI 570s, or HEAVILY OC'd (1GHz+) 560s are probably the only options on that list that will be comparable in terms of raw performance.

You could also consider Tri-SLI 470s, depending on the cost of 470s in your area.
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Yes GTX 295 can be designated as equal compared to the GTX 480 in terms of raw performance.

GTX 470 would cost just as much as the GTX 560 in my area.
I really would consider getting 560 SLI but like you said I would have to extremely max overclock them ....there are 2 problems coming with that though...1.)You can never know if you grabbed a card capable of achieving a core of 1GHZ + 2.)I am not planning on spending money for waterblocks for this temporary gpu update ..so a max overclock on air will not be possible with reasonable temps.

A single 580 would face the same problem as the 560 SLI ....it would only make sense with an extreme overclock and again there is no guarantee I will achieve it and there will be no money lost on it for watercooling so yeah.

It seems to me my only chance would be to spend some extra cash for 570 SLI ...and since I am considering 570 SLI ...480 SLI is out of the question because of inferior performance and VRAM.

So 570SLI seems to be the only reasonable way to go to both achieve the raw gpu performance of a 295 Quad setup and not exceed the budget limit by too much.

Thanks guys
If you still have some ideas please feel free to post!
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If it's available, I'd look at finding either the Asus DCII, Gigabyte Windforce, or Gainward Phantom 570s. I'd vote windforce, seeing as to run two DCII's you'd have to use a PCI 8x slot where as 2 windforce will fit in both your x16 slots (not much of a performance change, but enough to be a consideration). These three non-reference cards just go the extra mile on quality too. DCII is same cost as reference, Windforce seems like a $10 increase, but from what I can tell the phantom gets quite pricey.
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