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Uhg, two of those would have similar performance of CF 6950s and will double as your room HEATER for the coming summer smile.gif
Srsly, don't get gtx 480 you will regret it because of the heat and noise and the rebates...
Pretty much.
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Just snagged me two of these
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814127575

and a Hyper 212+
WHOA! Those cannot unlock!
    
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WHOA! Those cannot unlock!
Yes, they can. You'd know this if you'd bothered to read the entire thread.

With the Twin Frozr III coolers he gains a lot of overclocking potential anyway.
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Unlocked 6950 vs 6970???
Unlocking is not guaranteed and 6970 will have better reliability. Up to you if you wana unlock.
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www.tomshardware.com/forum/312169-33-6950

The Charts are interesting. Too bad they don't have the ATI cards OC'd on there.
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www.tomshardware.com/forum/312169-33-6950

The Charts are interesting. Too bad they don't have the ATI cards OC'd on there.
Neither of those two graphs represents either card very well. I'd rather take a look here http://www.guru3d.com/article/geforc...0-ti-review/18

11.4 drivers for 69xx series:

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Up to 23% performance improvement in Aliens vs. Predator
Up to 22% performance improvement in Batman: Arkham Asylum
Up to 15% performance improvement in Battleforge
Up to 72% performance improvement in Civilization V
Up to 59% performance improvement in Call of Duty: Black Ops
Up to 26% performance improvement in FarCry 2
Up to 35% performance improvement in Lost Planet 2
Up to 30% performance improvement in Metro 2033
Up to 11% performance improvement in S.T.A.L.K.E.R.: Call of Pripyat
Up to 19% performance improvement in Chronicles of Riddick: Assault on Dark Athena
http://blogs.amd.com/play/2011/03/14...n-waiting-for/

As you see, 6950 and 6970 have a lot of potential.
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post #27 of 36
Crossfire two 6950's from the early Release days (To unlock them to 6970)
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TeHe....I have a lanboy air dont make me LOL at "hot air in case"

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NOOOOO. You could have had GTX480s for 239 a piece.

http://www.overclock.net/online-deal...gtx-480-a.html
His motherboard would have sandwiched them. Great cards tho...
plus they sold out
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Neither of those two graphs represents either card very well. I'd rather take a look here http://www.guru3d.com/article/geforc...0-ti-review/18

11.4 drivers for 69xx series:



http://blogs.amd.com/play/2011/03/14...n-waiting-for/

As you see, 6950 and 6970 have a lot of potential.
Yes, the 560's have had performance improvements too. nVidia just doesn't specify it in their relese notes as well as ATI does.

So basically, 2 benchmarks, one shows nVidia in a good light, while another shows ATI in a better light. Both on old drivers. What makes you prefer the one that shows ATI in a better light?

I could care less either way, but I am curious why benchmarks are always back and forth. Bottom line, they are quite similar and the level of OC will easily put one ahead of the other. I have seen a few benchmarks showing a 560 SOC beating a stock 6970 2GB, so clocks truly matter.

Having said that, I was under the impression an unlocked 6950 can't quite match a 6970, is that correct? Maybe that was only the 5850/5870 cards.
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So basically, 2 benchmarks, one shows nVidia in a good light, while another shows ATI in a better light. Both on old drivers. What makes you prefer the one that shows ATI in a better light?

I could care less either way, but I am curious why benchmarks are always back and forth. Bottom line, they are quite similar and the level of OC will easily put one ahead of the other. I have seen a few benchmarks showing a 560 SOC beating a stock 6970 2GB, so clocks truly matter.

Having said that, I was under the impression an unlocked 6950 can't quite match a 6970, is that correct? Maybe that was only the 5850/5870 cards.
"The saving grace to the GeForce GTX 560 Ti was in its overclocking potential. And so, we took the Galaxy GeForce GTX 560 Ti GC and overclocked it as high as we could. We found positive results by doing this. With voltage tweaking and overclocking we were able to bring the GeForce GTX 560 Ti up to Radeon HD 6950 level of performance. Of course, it takes maxing the GTX 560 Ti in order to do this, and you still can’t make up for the RAM difference between the two video cards." source

the review he linked favors the 560 because they maxed it out, and left the 6950 stock and locked. also, AFAIK the 560 cannot OC as high as the 69xx series can, which is another reason they are better.

there are two major differences between the 6950 and the 6970. the first, which everyone knows about, is the increased shader count on the 6970. the second, which people often forget, is the higher binned ram which allows for higher safe voltages and higher OCs.

there is a method to unlock your 6950 to a 6970 bios, which bumps up the voltage on your ram to the stock 6970 voltage, theoretically allowing you to reach the same OC as the 6970, but this is dangerous as you're gambling on whether your ram will be able to take the punishment. there have been reports of cards failing after a few weeks of pushing higher voltages as the ram cannot support it.

the second method is to modify the bios to unlock the extra shaders on a 6950, while leaving everything else stock. this is by far the safer way to go, but you won't be able to push your ram as hard as you would a 6970 or a 6950 w/ a 6970 bios.

i'd be interested to know if those cards unlock for you. i have 2 XFX reference models, one from launch and another 3 months later, both of which unlocked perfectly.
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