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The 24" Dell has better color reproduction but responds slower. From what I've read the 2311h is the best for gaming because of that.
This. The U2311H's eIPS panel is one of the few IPS panels that has a low enough input lag for fast-paced gaming. The image quality can't match that of the larger Dell IPS monitors, but I think it's the perfect compromise between image quality and speed.
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This. The U2311H's eIPS panel is one of the few IPS panels that has a low enough input lag for fast-paced gaming. The image quality can't match that of the larger Dell IPS monitors, but I think it's the perfect compromise between image quality and speed.
Correct. It isn't a "true" IPS persay monitor but it's close enough for fantastic color reproduction in a gaming environment.
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As a new U2311H owner, I will spread the word that 1080 is not enough vertical pixels. IMHO 1200 should be the minimum for any 23"+ monitor.

The tinting, back light bleed and excessive anti-glare coating are issues with this monitor that people who are singing its praise conveniently overlook.

Lastly, anyone who says there is no ghosting or input lag while gaming has never compared side by side with a proper CRT or 120Hz monitor. The difference is night and day.
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I'd get the TN panel too. If you're just gaming and browsing the web you won't even notice the difference.

I gamed for years on a samsung monitor that can't display the colour red properly and it was just fine.

But if there's not much price difference then i'd get the IPS. Their colours are stunning.
That's just not true. Gaming on my 21.5" TN Viewsonic now is painful after playing with the U2311H for a while. It looks like trash.

Why spend hundreds of dollars on GPUs to make your games look great, when your cheap monitor makes it all look like washed out trash in the end no matter what?

I'll never buy another TN panel, for gaming or otherwise.

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As a new U2311H owner, I will spread the word that 1080 is not enough vertical pixels. IMHO 1200 should be the minimum for any 23"+ monitor.

The tinting, back light bleed and excessive anti-glare coating are issues with this monitor that people who are singing its praise conveniently overlook.

Lastly, anyone who says there is no ghosting or input lag while gaming has never compared side by side with a proper CRT or 120Hz monitor. The difference is night and day.
1080 is plenty of vertical pixels, especially considering the OP is coming from 1050 vertical pixels. If you need more, well, the U2311H can do that too, just switch it to portrait mode.

My U2311H has no tinting issues. What revision do you have? All displays will have some degree of backlight bleeding, it's certainly not "abnormal". AG coating is no worse than my TN panels.

Input lag? The U2311H actually has better input lag than some 120hz displays, so not sure where you're going with that comment. http://www.tftcentral.co.uk/reviews/dell_u2311h.htm Better than the Samsung there. 10.6ms compared to 15.0ms for the Sammy 120hz. Night and day? No, but in the IPS's favor? Yes.

It's not a perfect monitor, but for ~275 dollars, you're not going to get perfection.
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That's just not true. Gaming on my 21.5" TN Viewsonic now is painful after playing with the U2311H for a while. It looks like trash.

Why spend hundreds of dollars on GPUs to make your games look great, when your cheap monitor makes it all look like washed out trash in the end no matter what?

I'll never buy another TN panel, for gaming or otherwise.
<Well it all depends on the quality of the TN panel

My brother (alatar here on OCN) gave me his old 1920x1200 display. It's TN. So is my old 1920x1080. I run them side by side. Both are calibrated, tho not very well. But I have calibrated both to roughly work out okay for games and such. Compared to the 1920x1200 TN, the 1920x1080 TN looks like absolute garbage. Colors are flat and have loads of banding. Whites are a mix of gray and brown. The ghosting is horrible. The viewing angles are also horrible.
All in all, this 1920x1200 TN makes my old TN look like trash.

How big the jump from TN to IPS is depends on what IPS panel you jump to from what TN panel.

Higher quality TN > Lower quality IPS is not going to be too huge.
Lower quality TN > high quality IPS is going to be very noticiable. You'll never be able to go back.
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How big the jump from TN to IPS is depends on what IPS panel you jump to from what TN panel.

Higher quality TN > Lower quality IPS is not going to be too huge.
Lower quality TN > high quality IPS is going to be very noticiable. You'll never be able to go back.
QFT couldn't have said it any better myself.
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1080 is plenty of vertical pixels, especially considering the OP is coming from 1050 vertical pixels. If you need more, well, the U2311H can do that too, just switch it to portrait mode.

My U2311H has no tinting issues. What revision do you have? All displays will have some degree of backlight bleeding, it's certainly not "abnormal". AG coating is no worse than my TN panels.

Input lag? The U2311H actually has better input lag than some 120hz displays, so not sure where you're going with that comment. http://www.tftcentral.co.uk/reviews/dell_u2311h.htm Better than the Samsung there. 10.6ms compared to 15.0ms for the Sammy 120hz. Night and day? No, but in the IPS's favor? Yes.

It's not a perfect monitor, but for ~275 dollars, you're not going to get perfection.
I was using a 1680x1050 samsung t200hd before. Everyone has their own opinion, but a lot will agree with me that 1080 vertical just isn't comfortable. Especially for everyday web browsing and gaming.

The argument that switching to portrait mode makes up for the lack of vertical pixels in landscape is invalid. There are tons of landscape applications where you will want the full 1920 horizontal and 1200 vertical at the same time, and where 1080 horizontal in portrait isn't enough (multiple windows open side by side, spreadsheets, working with wallpapers and large photographs, full screen gaming, etc. etc.)

Right, and a budget IPS is better for gaming than a 120Hz lcd. I guess this monitor can do no wrong in your view, so no point in arguing.
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Right, and a budget IPS is better for gaming than a 120Hz lcd. I guess this monitor can do no wrong in your view, so no point in arguing.
I don't see the logic here. I prefer the image quality of an IPS over the responsiveness of a 120Hz monitor. I consider the IPS to be the better choice (in my opinion).

There's nothing wrong with having an opinion - so long as you're well informed and unbiased.
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I guess I will get the Dell then since everyone is recommending it.I hope it will be good for gaming.
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the LG IPS pannel, have an extreme Ag coating, and the text is hard to read.
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