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Isn't using a computer in general very hard for blind people?
I think if I was blind I'd get someone I trust to do computer stuff for me.
Ya. i would think it would be hard for a blind person to read Braille on a flat screen. Not only would you have to trust them they would have to be good at describing stuff. someone bad at describing stuff would get you no where with porn.
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Once again ADA is warped into something that it was never meant to be....
WRONG, this is just the type of thing the law was made concerning education.

EQUAL opportunity for education, if you make it so that there are people who are just left out because they have a physical disability, you are acting directly against what the law was set out to do concerning
EQUAL EDUCATION
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Can't we go and try something without someone being offended?
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This really disturbs me that this many people on the forums are willing to brush over students with disabilities and not care if they do not get an equal education to the person sitting beside them.

Yes it is annoying that people complain about new things but its a point they need to make. If schools are forcing students to use technology that they physically can not use, its not right. How would you feel if it was you, your child, or your spouse who would be separated from the rest of the class because they cant use the software they are being forced to use.

In a college this could be a big problem because you are not getting the equal education you are paying for. This could lead to tons of lawsuits if schools/google don't fix this. Until google does fix this, they need to find a workaround for schools to help those students out and accommodate them for their needs.
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I would like to know what kind of system the schools had in place previously to address this, because it seems to me that there is nothing unique about Google's mail service. It can be used as a standard pop3 account with any client you want, right?

I guess it's the other apps people are upset about...
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post #26 of 58
At a university, an aide is hired (at the student's request) in taking notes/helping the student with a disability. Perhaps, the school in question needs to provide a similar service.
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At a university, an aide is hired (at the student's request) in taking notes/helping the student with a disability. Perhaps, the school in question needs to provide a similar service.
Depends on the institution.

The problem being is that colleges are going to basically expecting students/employees to be wired into their email accounts 24/7 and checking them every hour. Many times this year I've gotten institutional emails with notices/info less than 2 hours before something is to occur or needs to happen.

In this day and age if you aren't using a smartphone you're looked at like someone from Mars.
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post #28 of 58
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Kind of sad.

The human is the only animal in the whole planet that helps the less able and forgets about the strong one.

Let's make some statistics:

Take that one in a thousand students is blind.

Okay, screw all the 999 students that aren't blind, because the one that is, needs education.


What about making special schools for those minorities instead of blowing up the rest's education?


No discrimination intended in my post.

In the united states this IS considered discrimination and it is not about the ADA, rather a case that dates back to the 50's; Brown v. Board of Education. Handed down on May 17, 1954, the Warren Court's unanimous (9–0) decision stated that "separate educational facilities are inherently unequal."

This decision was originally made concerning segregation of black students but also encompasses those students with disabilities.

And I did not see or interpret any discrimination in your post...
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I would like to know what kind of system the schools had in place previously to address this, because it seems to me that there is nothing unique about Google's mail service. It can be used as a standard pop3 account with any client you want, right?

I guess it's the other apps people are upset about...
It isn't just the Mail service. That is the least of the problems and as you pointed out a pop3 or imap client can access it. But this also involves Google Calendar and in terms of my daughter's school even extends to other Google apps like Google Docs (doc, spreadsheets, etc etc)

The shift towards cloud based services is inevitable. But those with a particular disability (blindness in this case) should not be left behind simply because of using Google services.
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Kind of sad.

The human is the only animal in the whole planet that helps the less able and forgets about the strong one.
I might be wrong, but I believe that more money is spent on special education than on helping those with genius level intellects. If school is to be an investment in the future, I must ask, "Why are we investing in the areas with the lowest returns?"
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