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I might be wrong, but I believe that more money is spent on special education than on helping those with genius level intellects. If school is to be an investment in the future, I must ask, "Why are we investing in the areas with the lowest returns?"
This discussion is about people with physical disabilities, so blind people are just low intellect idiots that are not worth investing ANYTHING in huh....

Keep in mind that many GENIUS level people have physical disabilities...
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post #32 of 58
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I might be wrong, but I believe that more money is spent on special education than on helping those with genius level intellects. If school is to be an investment in the future, I must ask, "Why are we investing in the areas with the lowest returns?"
Correct. Mostly.

Under the No Child Left Behind act, Special Education has a mostly blank check. However, that money is NOT supposed to come from the general education fund. In places where property tax funds most of the districts budget, there is little impact on the general education fund when funding special education. In poorer districts that receive funding based on how many kids show up for class each day, the special education funding (which must be funded by federal law) does indeed leave less money for the general education budget.

To answer your last question; "Because we are a compassionate species". OK call BS but that is part of the reason. Plus it is a combination of the different laws in place. Brown v. The Board of Education is one, ADA is another.

I am all for special education spending, but yes there should be a limit, just like there is a limit on what is spent for each General Education student. It gets even scarier when you see the programs in place at the wealthiest districts. Most, if not all, have adopted the policy that ALL children in the district will go to college. While I applaud the intent, I question the reality. Student John Doe who is a special education student with an IQ barely over 71 (anything below 70 is considered Mental Retardation) and who has a processing deficit disorder is not likely to ever obtain a Bachelor's Degree in any field. To mislead that child into thinking he is going to be a rocket scientist is doing a very grave disservice to that child by setting them up to fail. When they fail at college, they have very few options to become a productive member of society and then we (the taxpayer) support them the rest of their lives.


BTW: I must make a disclaimer that my SO has been a High School Teacher for almost 20 years and has been teaching special education for 10 years in rich and poor districts.
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post #33 of 58
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This discussion is about people with physical disabilities, so blind people are just low intellect idiots that are not worth investing ANYTHING in huh....

Keep in mind that many GENIUS level people have physical disabilities...
Also keep in mind that in the eyes of the law there is no difference between a paraplegic, a blind person or a child with mental retardation. They are all disabilities.


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Keep in mind that many GENIUS level people have physical and mental disabilities...
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post #34 of 58
They didn't even see it coming... (no hate)
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Give google a week and I'm sure they'll have a tool/plugin developed and sitting in the Labs section to help with this.

But isn't this also an issue with the accessibility software not properly interacting with google? I mean, it's difficult to put fault on google, when the accessibility software is also to blame.

This will just push both ends to improve, and it's a win-win situation.
    
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Can't he use a text-to-speech program? It doesn't seem that hard.
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post #37 of 58
Just like how we aren't allowed to bring anything that was even processed in a factory that handles peanuts because one kid has a peanut allergy.

Schools really need to subscribe to Darwin's theory of natural selection. If your child can't be in a room with anyone that has eaten peanuts in the last 24 hours, then I'm sorry but your child probably isn't going to make it.


When I was in school there was this one girl that had a deadly peanut allergy. The only thing that happened was that we had to eat our peanutbutter sandwiches away from her.
    
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This decision was originally made concerning segregation of black students but also encompasses those students with disabilities.
Black students don't hold back the rest's education. Blind students do (in this case).

I still think they should be englobed in another school that teaches them specifically in braille and empowering their rest of senses in order to be less "unable" tha they already are.

That way they improgress further and better, and they don't hold back the others.
   
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This discussion is about people with physical disabilities, so blind people are just low intellect idiots that are not worth investing ANYTHING in huh....

Keep in mind that many GENIUS level people have physical disabilities...
I was referring to a specific person's comment. Yes, there are people with physical disabilities. These generally do need a little more help, but that help might be justified by the fact that there is a potential return.
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So their objecting to outsourcing email to Google because blind people can't read emails from Google... Wait since when can blind people any emails?
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