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  • 50% (64)
    AMD 6950 CF
  • 49% (62)
    GTX 570 SLI
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post #131 of 686
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TheBlademaster01 View Post
So you converted euros to dollars? For how much euros did you sell them?
I sold one for 260€ the other one for 245€ .
If you are interested here http://www.willhaben.at/iad/kaufen-u...tx+295&x=0&y=0
Most noobs shop for used articles there ^^ without even realizing where to look for the best deal.
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post #132 of 686
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Originally Posted by Kung Pow View Post
See what you are doing?
I was posting with TheBlademaster01 and you come in contributing nothing just plain trolling trying to disturb again.
-.-
This entire thread is troll garbage.
Don't think for a second people actually read this and take their advice.
Any real tech or someone looking for advice is avoiding this epeen war of foolishness and immaturity.

Thats nice the Radeons have good VRAM, to bad they are subpar at everything else not to mention their countless driver issues. My 570 rick rolls 6950's and 6970's one on one, while having superior tessellation/ onboard PhsyX/CUDA. I won't go over 1600P and my 570 still kicks their butt at that res.

The only time Radeons are worth is it for budget systems or high resolution eyefinity setups.
And even then you are most likely dealing with driver issues.
Edited by amstech - 4/9/11 at 9:06am
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post #133 of 686
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Originally Posted by Kung Pow View Post
I sold one for 260€ the other one for 245€ .
If you are interested here http://www.willhaben.at/iad/kaufen-u...tx+295&x=0&y=0
Most noobs shop for used articles there ^^ without even realizing where to look for the best deal.
Ah, okay. It's still a high price but that sounds more realistic. FYI 260 euros = $260 in electronics. That site looks a bit like marktplaats.nl here in the Netherlands
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post #134 of 686
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Originally Posted by Kung Pow View Post
See what you are doing?
I was posting with TheBlademaster01 and you come in contributing nothing just plain trolling trying to disturb again.

Nobody cares...it is very sad to see that a thread with noble intentions of just wanting people to participate in a professional discussion had to be deleted because idiots like you feel the need to disregard and pollute anything that does not apply to their beliefs.

Very sad really but alright ...public forum means that even noodles like you can post their crap -.-
Ummm go post with Blade? and also you were going OT so its not my fault.

EDIT: wanna know why it got deleted? because you were asking ATI guys to go on "war" with the Nvidia guys on this thread.

EDIT 2: Ask anyone, YOU were the one disregarding and polluting everyone else's POV.
Edited by somebodysb2 - 4/9/11 at 9:08am
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post #135 of 686
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Quote:
Originally Posted by amstech View Post
This entire thread is troll garbage.
Don't think for a second people actually read this and take their advice.
Any real tech or someone looking for advice is avoiding this epeen war of foolishness and immaturity.


Thats nice the Radeons have good VRAM, to bad they are subpar at everything else not to mention their countless driver issues. My 570 rick rolls 6950's and 6970's one on one, while having superior tessellation/ onboard PhsyX/CUDA. I won't go over 1600P and my 570 still kicks their butt at that res.

The only time Radeons are worth is it for budget systems or high resolution eyefinity setups.
And even then you are most likely dealing with driver issues.
I know and it is very sad to see that so many inmature people were having the only one agender to disturb and disregard.
I really wanted to create a mutual ground on which both Nvidia and ATI people could discuss this matter with as much respect for each other and professionality as possible.
Unfortunetly FearedofBalls Somebodysb and many more have made it impossible for anyone to engage the matter seriously and for others to take advice out of it.

Someone should have restrained those fools from the beginning-.-
----------------------------------------------
As in terms of the rest of your post:

I do believe that 570 SLI is superior at <1920x1280 resolutions on singular screen setups ...because the lack of VRAM does not create any performance decrease here.
Even though the fact that most comparisons conducted by test labs were done with outdated Catalyst drivers and non unlocked 6950 I do believe that at the above mentioned gaming environment + settings meaning
<1920x1280 with little/none AA,AF a 570 SLI setup could marginally be better performing.

Still I am eagerly trying to find benchmark results and gameplay footage of 6950 CF fully unlocked with latest drivers to prove that there is more to them as people think
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post #136 of 686
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Ah, okay. It's still a high price but that sounds more realistic. FYI 260 euros = $260 in electronics. That site looks a bit like marktplaats.nl here in the Netherlands
Haha might as well
Especially in Europe hardware is just too pricey.
Retailers have to slap : shipping,taxes,retail value on their price and for them to even make 5 % of profit they have to increase it even more.

In the US people do not encounter these problems and I am very jealous of that fact^^

I gahtered 505€ which would be approximately 729 $ I think.
Surprisingly the 295 sells pretty good in Europe for a second hand state.
I wanted to save up for Kepler that is why I got the 295 Quad setup^^
But with the money I will probably get 2x6950 Twin Frozr III
Or a used 570 SLI setup from a friend not sure yet
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Hilarious.

To get a 570 that's actuallly safe to OC you have to get something like DirectCU, GL putting that in CF. In other words: bad card.

6950 CF beats any current generation CF/SLI setup overall. It's nearly as fast as 570 SLI and with unlock + OC it wins over 570. You also failed to realize that 470 is still slower and requires a lot of cooling, power and heavy overclocking to reach those speeds, yet it lost. Not everyone wants to get into that. It's a lot of hassle and time is money.

480 might be a better buy performance wise if you can get them cheap, but you'll have to invest in better cooling and you're getting hot cards and eats up far too much power.
I say no thanks.
Edited by Stefy - 4/9/11 at 11:38am
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post #138 of 686
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Hilarious.

To get a 570 that's actuallly safe to OC you have to get something like DirectCU, GL putting that in CF. In other words: bad card.

6950 CF beats any current generation CF/SLI setup overall. It's nearly as fast as 570 SLI and with unlock + OC it wins over 570. You also failed to realize that 470 is still slower and requires a lot of cooling, power and heavy overclocking to reach those speeds, yet it lost. Not everyone wants to get into that. It's a lot of hassle and time is money.

480 might be a better buy performance wise if you can get them cheap, but you'll have to invest in better cooling and you're getting hot cards and eats up far too much power.
I say no thanks.
I agree with you on the 480´s ..their power consumption is terrible and a result of that huge required amount of power is of course heat...which leads to unstable overclocks and ultimately card failure.
A 480 SLI setup only doubles those issues and should only be considered if watercooling is involved.

So in my case because I do not wanna spend money for blocks the 6950 is the better buy.

Compared to the 570 SLI ...it is still very hard to determine...but I will say this...current comparisons that have been conducted by test labs and reviewers are inaccurate because the latest drivers weren´t used which was a restrain of at least 15% performance and the cards that were tested hadn´t been unlocked.

But I also have to say that at a resolution <1920x1280 with little or no AA, AF and a single monitor setup the 570 SLI setup would probably beat the 6950 CF unlocked due to the raw power it unleashes which is made possible because the lack of VRAM does not affect the cards performance if the AA, AF + other graphical settings have been nullified and the resolution isn´t too high.

470´s do not suit this discussion because they are outdated last generation and have nothing to do with the top cards that are being debated here
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Hilarious.

To get a 570 that's actuallly safe to OC you have to get something like DirectCU, GL putting that in CF. In other words: bad card.

6950 CF beats any current generation CF/SLI setup overall. It's nearly as fast as 570 SLI and with unlock + OC it wins over 570. You also failed to realize that 470 is still slower and requires a lot of cooling, power and heavy overclocking to reach those speeds, yet it lost. Not everyone wants to get into that. It's a lot of hassle and time is money.

480 might be a better buy performance wise if you can get them cheap, but you'll have to invest in better cooling and you're getting hot cards and eats up far too much power.
I say no thanks.
Schools in.

1) The cooling on the 570 makes no difference, the mosfets blow because too much current is being pushed through them. The quality of the mosfets and amount used is the key here, nothing else.

2) No it doesn't. 570s aren't the fastest cards. No it doesn't, you've been saying that this whole thread yet have not backed it up.

3) Its only slower because its on stock cooling going against $350 "next gen" cards. I love a card that can give me a lot of overclock, that screams value. Love it. Then why are you advocating unlocking, and overclocking for the 6950, sounds like an oxymoron. Yes it took me years to achieve this level of OC.

4) No you won't. The power difference isn't very great, look at the 6990, it has a higher TDP than the 590. Get over power usage, unless you can't afford $3 a month for better performance that is.




Yes Kung Pow, owner of quad sli 295, you really nailed that one. I see tons of 480 users talking about how their cards blew up, at least 3 topics on the front page alone.
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I agree with you on the 480´s ..their power consumption is terrible and a result of that huge required amount of power is of course heat...which leads to unstable overclocks and ultimately card failure.
A 480 SLI setup only doubles those issues and should only be considered if watercooling is involved.

So in my case because I do not wanna spend money for blocks the 6950 is the better buy.

Compared to the 570 SLI ...it is still very hard to determine...but I will say this...current comparisons that have been conducted by test labs and reviewers are inaccurate because the latest drivers weren´t used which was a restrain of at least 15% performance and the cards that were tested hadn´t been unlocked.

But I also have to say that at a resolution <1920x1280 with little or no AA, AF and a single monitor setup the 570 SLI setup would probably beat the 6950 CF unlocked due to the raw power it unleashes which is made possible because the lack of VRAM does not affect the cards performance if the AA, AF + other graphical settings have been nullified and the resolution isn´t too high.

470´s do not suit this discussion because they are outdated last generation and have nothing to do with the top cards that are being debated here
No, the 570 would not win without having a decent OC, which we all know how great the 570s are at.

http://www.legitreviews.com/article/1488/11/
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