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Poll Results: According to the posted ingame/benchmark results and valid/logic facts.. who won?

 
  • 50% (64)
    AMD 6950 CF
  • 49% (62)
    GTX 570 SLI
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Originally Posted by saulin View Post
Well here is 3DMark 11, 570s @ 920 on I7 @ 4.2Ghz

http://www.overclock.net/benchmarkin...l#post12653081

Look at the GPU score

And here are 2 unlocked 6950s @ 1000Mhz (Very impressive), but the CPU is a 2600k @ 5.4Ghz


Again look at the GPU score. Obviously the 6950s got a nice advantage because of the CPU, but judging by this. I would say the 6950s might have a hard time beating 2 570s. Also noticed that the 6900 series seem to have an advantage in 3Dmark 11 over the Nvidia cards

I guess we'll see when the benchmarks show up

I don't believe the gpu based tests are CPU bound at all, the only advantage the SB chip is going to have in 3D Mark 11 is the Combined and Physics test.

6970 with 10% performance boost due to lower quality textures gets:

Test 1: 49.75

Test 2: 60.61

Test 3: 71.99

Test 4: 35.29

The 570 wins in Test 1 by 4 fps.

The 6970 wins in Test 2 by 4 fps.

The 570 wins test 3 by 5 fps.

The 570 wins test 4 by 4 fps.

I'd say the 570s are the clear winner, even with a 10% poor texture quality advantage for the 6970s.
    
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Well here are finally some benches of HD6950 CF

All benchies done with an i7-860 cpu @ 3,8ghz and memory at 1810mhz 8-8-8-24 1T
All overclocks was done on 6950 stock voltages. Thats 1.065V for the first card and 1.1V for the second card [factory defualts]
I have choosen for these low overclocks so others with an i7 cpu and a pair of HD6950's or GTX570's can easely replicate these settings.
Compare with GTX570 SLI at stock clocks pls. thats what this thread was meant for i think.
If you still beat full unlock we know the GTX570 SLI is the clear winner. [wich i think it will be]
The little overclock was done with stock 6970 voltages [1.175V] This overclock is not here for comparing though, just threw it in for ****s and giggles.
If we are going to compare overclocked 6950 vs 570 then we need a much higher clocked cpu to. This is all made easy see we can compare easy and FAIR.

With the 3Dmark benchies for comparisation rather look at GPU score instead of the total P score. [compared to another i7 cpu at 3,8ghz that is]

3Dmark11 Performance settings.

1. 800/1250mhz P8871 http://3dmark.com/3dm11/1004039
2. 880/1375mhz P9482 http://3dmark.com/3dm11/1004128

3. 880/1375mhz Unlocked P9641 http://3dmark.com/3dm11/1007609
4. 935/1375mhz Unlocked P9880 http://3dmark.com/3dm11/1008070


3Dmark Vantage Performance settings. [No Physx]

1. 800/1250mhz P29572 http://3dmark.com/3dmv/3074625
2. 880/1375mhz P30647 http://3dmark.com/3dmv/3072191

3. 880/1375mhz Unlocked P31468 http://3dmark.com/3dmv/3073511
4. 935/1375mhz Unlocked P31532 http://3dmark.com/3dmv/3074395



Metro2033 [DX11. No DOF, Quality very high, AA= AAA, texture filtering= AF 16X, Advanced Physx disabled, 1920x1080]

Scene= Frontline [3 loops]

1. 800/1250mhz •Average Framerate: 65.67
•Max. Framerate: 221.53
•Min. Framerate: 9.39

2. 880/1375mhz •Average Framerate: 71.00
•Max. Framerate: 235.13
•Min. Framerate: 8.49

3. 880/1375mhz Unlocked •Average Framerate: 70.33
•Max. Framerate: 248.51
•Min. Framerate: 9.68

4. 935/1375mhz Unlocked •Average Framerate: 70.67
•Max. Framerate: 241.60
•Min. Framerate: 8.90



Farcry2 [Ultra High settings+bloom. Dx10. AAx8. 1920x1080]

1. 800/1250mhz Average Framerate: 151,18
Max. Framerate: 295,13
Min. Framerate: 94,51


2. 880/1375mhz Average Framerate: 156,25
Max. Framerate: 304,98
Min. Framerate: 83,12

3. 880/1375mhz Unlocked Average Framerate: 161,61
Max. Framerate: 345,16
Min. Framerate: 89,45

4. 935/1375mhz Unlocked Average Framerate: 163,01
Max. Framerate: 318,86
Min. Framerate: 89,09



lost Planet 2 [all settings to high. MSAAx8. 1920x1080]


3. 880/1375mhz Unlocked Average Framerate: 94.26
4. 935/1375mhz Unlocked Average Framerate: 96.48


Alien vs Predator. [Default settings. 1920x1080]

3. 880/1375mhz Unlocked Average Framerate: 125.4
4. 935/1375mhz Unlocked Average Framerate: 127.1


Dont forget i sayed a few posts back that i do think GTX570 are better in terms of performance. not in terms of price/performance though.
I just ran these simple benchmarks becuase people been asking for it so much.
And keeping it this simple somebody else can easy replicate this with GTX570's

More screenshot available if you dont believe these benchies, didnt put much in here to not take to much space.





So, who is going to give us results of stock GTX570's SLI with an i7 cpu at 3,8ghz ?
No sandy bridge pls
no overclocked GTX570's but it can be a factory overclocked card ofcourse.
Overclocked vs Overclocked is another battle
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Overclocked vs Overclocked is another battle
Not really fair now is it; the 6970 overclocks an average of 9.6%, while the GTX 570 overclocks an average of 27.7%.
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Farih, thanks for the benchmarks.
    
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Not really fair now is it; the 6970 overclocks an average of 9.6%, while the GTX 570 overclocks an average of 27.7%.
But isn't that what this is about?

Who can get Max performance from each set up?
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But isn't that what this is about?

Who can get Max performance from each set up?
Exactly, so the way to do it is to come up with the highest overclock, and see which setup gets the better results.
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Exactly, so the way to do it is to come up with the highest overclock, and see which setup gets the better results.
Exactly. Boy, that was easy.
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But isn't that what this is about?

Who can get Max performance from each set up?
I agree... isnt the point of this what is ultimately the better card?
If you can unlock a reference 6950 into a 6970, why can't the Nvidia guys overclock their GTX 570s? That is really where the price/performance ratio comes in at, right?

Unfortunately for the gtx 570s, the reference cards can't overclock as safely as my DirectCUII, which overclocked to 900MHz 1.125v gives me:

On a single card:
Average Framerate: 48.67
Max. Framerate: 115.41
Min. Framerate: 1.86

all settings the same as above. unfortunately, I have a Sandybridge i5... I could probably turn off my OCs and run it at the stock settings. Which is 3.7 GHz.

I know this argument is about SLI vs X-Fire with these two... but its a start. (I can't afford a GTX SLI set up... sorry)

Here is the image of the benchmark:

Edited by Sohryu76 - 4/11/11 at 11:04am
    
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But isn't that what this is about?

Who can get Max performance from each set up?
I would like to think so.

I don't think its really far for me to bench vs a 1156 cpu, but for comparison here is my run at his settings.



I find it interesting that in the first screen he has 1536 @ 935 core and gets 70.65 fps, but then in the second screen he only has 1408 @ 880 core but manages to get 71 fps. Am I the only one who finds this odd?
    
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Its about wich card is strongest at the same settings. This to determine wich card performance best under the same restrictions.

All cards clock differently, even the same model/brand of a gtx570 or hd6950
Also when people go for good overclocks they also overclock there cpu to as far as they can.
All that doesnt give a good perspective to how these cards perform related to eachother. there will be to many different settings/clocks/voltages and so on.

The simple becnhes i done can be easely replicated for others and should give a good and fair comparisation.

everyone with an i7 cpu can clock it to 3,8ghz [well 90% of the people]
everyone can get these benches i used for free.

Born2bwild why dont you clock your i7-970 to 3,8ghz and run the benches i done with your graphics at stock ?
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Lamptron FC5 V2 fan-controller AlphaCool VP655 Pump + Plexi Top EK Spin Bay resevoir 3x Scythe Gentle Typhoon's 1450rpm 
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6x Enermax Cluster White 1200rpm Windows 10 Iiyama Prolite E2773HDS 27inch - 47inch LG TV Corsair K60 - Razor BlackWidow Stealth - Logite... 
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Corsair RM1000i Corsair AIR540 Logitech G502 Corepad xxxl 
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Musical Fidelity V-Dac II Reloop Direct Drive Turntable with Ortofon Conc... 2x Adam A5X Studio Monitors BeyerDynamic DT990 Pro 250ohm 
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Audioquest Nighthawk Lehmann Audio Linear Headphone Amp Sennheiser HD650 Musical Fidelity V-PSU 
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AMD E-350 Asus E35M1-M 4GB DDR3 Kingston 1333mhz  1,5TB wester digital green 
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640GB WD Caviar blue 500GB Samsung Spinpoint Samsung Dvd-rewriter windows xp sp2 
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16GB 2400mhz CL9 Ripjaws Samsung 951 NVME 256GB 250GB SSD Samsung 840 Seagate 7200rpm 3TB 
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Seagate 7200rpm 3TB Watercool Heatkiller 3.0 Copper MagiCool Elegant plexi full copper 120mm rad. MagiCool Elegant plexi full copper 240mm rad 
CoolingCoolingCoolingCooling
Lamptron FC5 V2 fan-controller AlphaCool VP655 Pump + Plexi Top EK Spin Bay resevoir 3x Scythe Gentle Typhoon's 1450rpm 
CoolingOSMonitorKeyboard
6x Enermax Cluster White 1200rpm Windows 10 Iiyama Prolite E2773HDS 27inch - 47inch LG TV Corsair K60 - Razor BlackWidow Stealth - Logite... 
PowerCaseMouseMouse Pad
Corsair RM1000i Corsair AIR540 Logitech G502 Corepad xxxl 
AudioAudioAudioAudio
Musical Fidelity V-Dac II Reloop Direct Drive Turntable with Ortofon Conc... 2x Adam A5X Studio Monitors BeyerDynamic DT990 Pro 250ohm 
AudioAudioAudioOther
Audioquest Nighthawk Lehmann Audio Linear Headphone Amp Sennheiser HD650 Musical Fidelity V-PSU 
CPUMotherboardRAMHard Drive
AMD E-350 Asus E35M1-M 4GB DDR3 Kingston 1333mhz  1,5TB wester digital green 
Hard DriveHard DriveOptical DriveOS
640GB WD Caviar blue 500GB Samsung Spinpoint Samsung Dvd-rewriter windows xp sp2 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
19inch phillips tft generic Bequiet 300Watt Fratal Design Core 
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microsoft none 
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