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    AMD 6950 CF
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    GTX 570 SLI
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post #71 of 686
Quote:
Originally Posted by steadly2004;13054496 
I totally understand that that's not the price of all gtx570's but currently it looks like a gtx570 can be had for $289 after rebate and the 6950 2g $235 after rebate (just a quick newegg search).
Thats because one on one a GTX 570 smokes a 6950 and has superior tessellation/ onboard PhsyX/CUDA. It matches a 6970 all the way up to 1600P.

The Radeons scale like crazy but still have too many driver issues.
Last I knew anyways.

GTX 570's are more then enough to run anything at 1600P, but when you start getting up to 5670 X 1080 resolutions with eyefinity/3DSurround I would recommend more VRAM.
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GTX 570'S are superior cards to 6950's in raw performance. I have yet to see one perform as well. If you add in the cost of these cards along with performance, the 6950 will be a better buy with the estimate that the 570 costs $50 more. The statements that either of these cards (6950,570) does not overclock well is not true. Both overclock very well.

When price comes into effect, I prefer the 6870 in crossfire.
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post #73 of 686
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Quote:
Originally Posted by steadly2004 View Post
I totally understand that that's not the price of all gtx570's but currently it looks like a gtx570 can be had for $289 after rebate and the 6950 2g $235 after rebate (just a quick newegg search). The release prices aren't reflective of current costs. That's like ~100-110 difference between the dual card solution prices.

And you're saying you don't want this thread is more powerful? Lol, I must have misread the origional post's first sentence.

LOL I was just going to ask for some real world benchmarks to compare the two to answer the first sentence in the first post. That's all.

I don't even expect the gtx570's to win, I would personally just like to see some stock/overclocked benchmarks done here on OCN. That's all.
We are talking about new cards just because you got yours used does not mean everbody does?
Also not everybody lives in the USA and is able to use newegg?
In my country there is a 180$ difference between the 6950 and 570?
Regardless of the price this does and will not have to become a battle between cards because the 570 is just unable to compete considering the mentioned deficiencies compared to the 6950!
Quote:
Originally Posted by BallaTheFeared View Post
I think you're trolling, and no I wasn't confusing them. Buy some 6950s, we'll bench at 1080p and I'll laugh.
I am trolling my own thread lol?
Please remove yourself from my thread if you don´t have anything contributive to say.

Quote:
Originally Posted by amstech View Post
Thats because one on one a GTX 570 smokes a 6950 and has superior tessellation/ onboard PhsyX/CUDA. It matches a 6970 all the way up to 1600P.

The Radeons scale like crazy but still have too many driver issues.
Last I knew anyways.

GTX 570's are more then enough to run anything at 1600P, but when you start getting up to 5670 X 1080 resolutions with eyefinity/3DSurround I would recommend more VRAM.
New Catalyst Driver updates have removed any issues or bugs that have been related to the 6950 also did it unleash an additional amount of performance.
Unfortunetly the most benchmark results and tests are conducted with 6950 on old Catalyst drivers,mild or no overclock and not unlocked.

I can asure you that with one of the newer revisions of the 6950 that were provided with an individually designed voltage controller and overclocking enhancing technology the real difference between 6950 and 570 will be visible to a whole new extent.

Optimal conditions would be a MSI 6950 Twin Frozr III fully unlocked to a 6970 with a 6970 BIOS max overclocked or the same settings with an ASUS 6950 non ref.

It is sad that the comparisons shown by the multiple test labs have always been processed with optimal conditions for the 570 (latest drivers etc) but not the 6950.

I would be very glad to see an even and fair test establishment for both
Edited by Kung Pow - 4/8/11 at 5:44pm
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post #74 of 686
You already made your selection, go to the ATI forum. No sense trying to defend your selection here nobody is going to agree with you except the ATI people coming in.

Who cares about stock anyways? Whooo the 6950 has about 100-200Mhz OC range, vs things like the 480 or 470 which can get 50% overclocks and more.

Add this
http://www.overclock.net/ati/

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Quote:
Originally Posted by BallaTheFeared View Post
You already made your selection, go to the ATI forum. No sense trying to defend your selection here nobody is going to agree with you except the ATI people coming in.

Who cares about stock anyways? Whooo the 6950 has about 100-200Mhz OC range, vs things like the 480 or 470 which can get 50% overclocks and more.

Add this
http://www.overclock.net/ati/

Let us know how it works out, remember to come back for some benching.

I am not defending anything? rather am I listing facts.
Please leave out your antiqued 480/470 right now 6950 and 570 are being discussed.

This thread is called 6950 CF vs 570 SLI if you can´t deal with that please remove yourself.

I am awaiting serious posts like for example from Electroneng so please restrain your activity in this thread to just watching.
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post #76 of 686
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Quote:
Originally Posted by LivingChampion View Post
Here is my Vantage with my 24/7 clocks

3DMark11 is in sig. I am also curious as to what 6950/6970 CF is getting with CPU around 4Ghz.

These are not fully unlocked only the shaders and with the old Catalyst drivers so keep in mind at least 20-25% performance are not being used due to lack of the new drivers.
Physx was obviously enabled with the 570´s.


Edited by Kung Pow - 4/8/11 at 6:20pm
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Its 4GHz vs 5.3GHz...

I think it's utterly unimpressive considering how much you've talked them up.

Here are crappy $165 cards.



20-25% performance missing? What are you smoking?
    
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Its 4GHz vs 5.3GHz...

I think it's utterly unimpressive considering how much you've talked them up.

Here are crappy $165 cards.



20-25% performance missing? What are you smoking?
You really don´t seem to have enough knowledge to be able of seriously engaging the discussion.

1.)At a certain point the CPU does not contribute to the gpu´s performance ...4.1 GHZ are more then enough to not bottleneck the cards.

2.)The new Catalyst Drivers to add a tremendous amount of performance.
Maybe not 20% in all cases but certainly around 15% +/-

3.)Please stop posting now I think you are not fit to discuss here.
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1) Wrong, we're talking about Vantage, and even at 5.3GHz I'm losing fps because of a cpu bottleneck.

2) I'll believe it when I see it.

3) Says the guy who thinks cpu clocks don't matter cause you hit 4GHz.

I think you're just mad because $100 without a 100% unlock success only bought you an additional 15/9 fps.



Edit: Buy your 6950, my second water block should be here next week we can bench, hopefully you unlock those cores cause I'm pretty sure I won't need 930+ core to beat a lowly 6950 that can't unlock.
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1) Wrong, we're talking about Vantage, and even at 5.3GHz I'm losing fps because of a cpu bottleneck.

2) I'll believe it when I see it.

3) Says the guy who thinks cpu clocks don't matter cause you hit 4GHz.

I think you're just mad because $100 without a 100% unlock success only bought you an additional 15 fps.
When did you read "does not matter"?
I said at a certain point it wouldn´t contribute to the gpu´s performance or at least to such a marginal extent for it to become not worth mentioning because of its extremely or none impact on the results.

Let´s stop this please.
I really would like to stop having to interact with you in order to disprove your terribly misguided view so please remain passive.


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Originally Posted by Kung Pow View Post
New Catalyst Driver updates have removed any issues or bugs that have been related to the 6950 also did it unleash an additional amount of performance.
Unfortunetly the most benchmark results and tests are conducted with 6950 on old Catalyst drivers,mild or no overclock and not unlocked.

I can asure you that with one of the newer revisions of the 6950 that were provided with an individually designed voltage controller and overclocking enhancing technology the real difference between 6950 and 570 will be visible to a whole new extent.

Optimal conditions would be a MSI 6950 Twin Frozr III fully unlocked to a 6970 with a 6970 BIOS max overclocked or the same settings with an ASUS 6950 non ref.

It is sad that the comparisons shown by the multiple test labs have always been processed with optimal conditions for the 570 (latest drivers etc) but not the 6950.

I would be very glad to see an even and fair test establishment for both

Electroneng you seem to be of quite some knowledge
I would like to hear your oppinion.
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