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You do not need heat in winter to survive either but it increases your chances and is therefore a perfect analogy.



It is ridiculous assertions such as these that lead reasonable people to stop reading. Simply put you could not read/communicate enough in one month to pass these caps unless the process involved other rich media such as research, medical or engineering amongst many others.

Netflix however is a perfect catalyst in that caps stifle innovation and screw the average user in the long run. Netflix espouses all of the virtues of capitalism yet has it's existence challenged by a powerful industry that I would argue is racketeering all in the name of protecting the "average user."

I don't know about others but I enjoy Netflix about two years ahead of mainstream being that I want 1080p full resolution and DTS uncompressed. 4 of those movies with my normal internet usage and I have to pay overages now on a service that has seen no tangible cost increase in data transmission?



Markup is in our DNA. Regulation defines democracy.



Support Municipal Broadband.
You can tell you don't live in Canada. Ever hear of -40oC? -40oC is the same as -40oF give or take a few decimals. Try and survive in that with no heat. Go head, give it a shot. What's that? Use of fire? That is: 1) a use of heating, 2) illegal. Can't just light up a fire outside in Canada lest you live in the country and even then it has to be in a sand pit, with a certain radius around the fire pit that is non-flammable, and it has to have a certain degree of humidity in the air. Too dry? No fire.

So yes, heating in Canada is necessary to survival in winter. AC in summer? Not so much.

About your second point:

Ridiculous assertions? Well, I don't know about you, but I download alot of data. Whether it be data pertaining to proteins for my projects, or pdfs to complete lab reports, etc. When I'm not streaming video and etc. I STILL reach caps of 40GBs. Just from sheer data. And this is stuff for science, and I'm only a student. There are MANY students out there. I know someone in social science who downloaded 20GB worth of articles, papers, and studies. So... ridiculous? Go work for Bell.

Third point:

Markup is in our DNA? You obviously don't study science. Marketing perhaps? Do you work for Bell? Markup exists. In retail, you can pay the company as little as 50cents to buy a PS3, as they are sold for 50cents worth of profit. Then you go into things such as cables, where you can easily spend 40$ on a 3$ cable. But when they are charging you 100$ a month for something that costs them a few pennies? Hello. And I'm not sure if you noticed, but in Canada, all of Bell's areas that were promised internet STILL DON'T HAVE INTERNET. Vals-des-Monts has no high speed internet, but 5 years ago you could call them and they said sometime next year it will be upgraded. Called them recently: sometime next year it will be upgraded. Will it ever? Not likely, they spend their money on upgrading their more profitable cell towers instead.

Fourth point:
Municipal broadband... What shell do you live in? Do you live in Canada? Apparently not, as there is no such thing as municipal broadband. Places like teksavvy are the competitors with Bell, and they are not municipal. There are too many laws protecting the big companies that are price gouging, and there are many anti-competitive laws. They are trying to pass a law to allow competition by allowing an American company in (AT&T) under a different name (yet to be announced) that would put in FiOs and charge less than Bell - why? Because there's not enough competition. What's out there right now are in cahoots and won't go below certain prices.

Also, I go back to my main point. Internet may not be a necessity for survival, but it sure does give an edge on everything. You want a job - better know all the info you need. You're a student - you better have access to that data needed. Especially in science when you can't go to a library and get the info you need in books. We are often dealing with stuff that is newly published and all the libraries in the area aren't too concerned with it.

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You have never lived in FL have you. AC=need. Heat=optional.

I think what the poster was saying is that internet is quickly becoming just like any other utility. Just like home phone service is quickly leaving that role. Heat is a utility much in the same way internet is. I know when I move that is a major factor for me. No internet=not gonna live there.

By your argument electricity is just a luxury as well. But I bet you consider it a necessity when you move. Its no different.
You never ever NEED AC to survive. I've been in many hot areas without AC. Borden is a good example as it is a sand pit. It was two weeks worth of drought and +42oC, or 108oF. People were able to live without artificial cold since forever. Humans have been using fire in order to survive for even longer.
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You can tell you don't live in Canada. Ever hear of -40oC? -40oC is the same as -40oF give or take a few decimals. Try and survive in that with no heat.
I live in Wisconsin and was previously stationed at Ft. Wiley, AK for two years. You can absolutely live in extreme cold with no heat. Layers and looseness but hey you live in Canada and invented the cold eh

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About your second point:

Ridiculous assertions? Well, I don't know about you, but I download alot of data. Whether it be data pertaining to proteins for my projects, or pdfs to complete lab reports, etc. When I'm not streaming video and etc. I STILL reach caps of 40GBs. Just from sheer data. And this is stuff for science, and I'm only a student. There are MANY students out there. I know someone in social science who downloaded 20GB worth of articles, papers, and studies. So... ridiculous? Go work for Bell.
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Simply put you could not read/communicate enough in one month to pass these caps unless the process involved other rich media such as research, medical or engineering amongst many others.


I don't know about others but I enjoy Netflix about two years ahead of mainstream being that I want 1080p full resolution and DTS uncompressed. 4 of those movies with my normal internet usage and I have to pay overages now on a service that has seen no tangible cost increase in data transmission?
To clarify, you are debating the merits of my points when I am essentially agreeing with you? I can see the confusion if English were your second language. The question mark validates your contention concerning the evil Bell empire price gouging.

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Third point:

Markup is in our DNA? You obviously don't study science. Marketing perhaps? Do you work for Bell? Markup exists. In retail, you can pay the company as little as 50cents to buy a PS3, as they are sold for 50cents worth of profit. Then you go into things such as cables, where you can easily spend 40$ on a 3$ cable. But when they are charging you 100$ a month for something that costs them a few pennies? Hello. And I'm not sure if you noticed, but in Canada, all of Bell's areas that were promised internet STILL DON'T HAVE INTERNET. Vals-des-Monts has no high speed internet, but 5 years ago you could call them and they said sometime next year it will be upgraded. Called them recently: sometime next year it will be upgraded. Will it ever? Not likely, they spend their money on upgrading their more profitable cell towers instead.
Wow. Just wow. Do they have reading and comprehension at your esteemed institution of higher learning? Did you even have a point here besides the obvious, that is corporations are evil entities that are out to suck humanity dry or did you just want to call me a dirty profiteer all the while espousing my lack of the scientific process?

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Fourth point:
Municipal broadband... What shell do you live in? Do you live in Canada? Apparently not, as there is no such thing as municipal broadband. Places like teksavvy are the competitors with Bell, and they are not municipal. There are too many laws protecting the big companies that are price gouging, and there are many anti-competitive laws. They are trying to pass a law to allow competition by allowing an American company in (AT&T) under a different name (yet to be announced) that would put in FiOs and charge less than Bell - why? Because there's not enough competition. What's out there right now are in cahoots and won't go below certain prices
teksavvy is what is referred to here as a clec http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Competi...change_carrier a little bit of knowledge makes a more convincing argument.

Competition costs REAL money. Municipal broadband can easily fill that void once residents become fed up with the "service" the incumbents offer and purchase bonds to build out their own infrastructure. I would state that even this process is far from perfect but often times the only solution. It is a shame NAFTA didn't include building an information super highway much like the interstate system Federal-Aid Highway Act of 1956 but with all 3 of our North American countries taking part.

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Also, I go back to my main point. Internet may not be a necessity for survival, but it sure does give an edge on everything. You want a job - better know all the info you need. You're a student - you better have access to that data needed. Especially in science when you can't go to a library and get the info you need in books. We are often dealing with stuff that is newly published and all the libraries in the area aren't too concerned with it.
See we were agreeing all along.

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You never ever NEED AC to survive. I've been in many hot areas without AC. Borden is a good example as it is a sand pit. It was two weeks worth of drought and +42oC, or 108oF. People were able to live without artificial cold since forever. Humans have been using fire in order to survive for even longer.


Sigh... U Mad Bruh?
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I live in Wisconsin and was previously stationed at Ft. Wiley, AK for two years. You can absolutely live in extreme cold with no heat. Layers and looseness but hey you live in Canada and invented the cold eh





To clarify, you are debating the merits of my points when I am essentially agreeing with you? I can see the confusion if English were your second language. The question mark validates your contention concerning the evil Bell empire price gouging.



Wow. Just wow. Do they have reading and comprehension at your esteemed institution of higher learning? Did you even have a point here besides the obvious, that is corporations are evil entities that are out to suck humanity dry or did you just want to call me a dirty profiteer all the while espousing my lack of the scientific process?



teksavvy is what is referred to here as a clec http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Competi...change_carrier a little bit of knowledge makes a more convincing argument.

Competition costs REAL money. Municipal broadband can easily fill that void once residents become fed up with the "service" the incumbents offer and purchase bonds to build out their own infrastructure. I would state that even this process is far from perfect but often times the only solution. It is a shame NAFTA didn't include building an information super highway much like the interstate system Federal-Aid Highway Act of 1956 but with all 3 of our North American countries taking part.



See we were agreeing all along.





Sigh... U Mad Bruh?
lol. Had too much fun with that.
But seriously, no amount of layers will help in certain temperatures, hence why fire is used so much, in tandem from protection from wind (the real killer, especially in Canada).

I basically nitpicked on your smaller points.

But for the record: local =/= municipal. Can't have municipal due to a plethora of legal issues... All we need, really, is for Canada to jump on the Eu style bandwagon. :S

And I stand by my "ridiculous" statement, because that is what is really the big issue. Bell won't even upgrade the 20GB cap in VDM, and I can eat 20GB for breakfast with my protein research alone.

Also, movies aren't classified as research.

Comprehension is definitely not a problem at my 'esteemed institution' which I loathe. On the other hand, how is your ability to comprehend what is up for debate?
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