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post #1 of 17
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A friend of mine is getting a new machine with his tax refund money - around $1000. It's his first build, and he also plans to try overclocking for the first time. So, armed with research from when I did my sig rig build in January, I suggested the following system:

CPU: Intel Core i5-2500k
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 Plus
Motherboard: ASUS P8P67 Pro
RAM: PNY 4GB (2x2GB) DDR3-1600 CAS8
GPU: EVGA GeForce 560 Ti 1GB
PSU: Corsair HX Series 850W
HDD: Samsung Spinpoint F3 1TB
Case: Lian-Li Lancool PC-K62
Total after shipping and rebates: $1014.00

He has an 8800 GTX that's going in there for PhysX, and plans a second 560 Ti in a few months. Reviews I read of the 560 said it can draw almost 300 watts at load, so a beefy PSU seemed in order for an SLI configuration (and yes, I know the 850W is overkill...but it was on sale!).

He just sent me a message that he ordered the following:

CPU: Intel Core i5-2500k
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper N520
Motherboard: ASUS P8P67 Pro
RAM: Corsair 4Gb (2x2GB) DDR3-1600 CAS9
GPU: EVGA GeForce 560 Ti 1GB SuperClocked
PSU: Thermaltake Toughpower XT 775W
HDD: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB
Case: Cooler Master HAF 932
Total after shipping and rebates: $1,036.25

Other than the SuperClocked 560 Ti - which could've been easily added to my build for ~$30, but the expense didn't seem worth a few FPS - my setup seems superior. In particular, my RAM, HDD, and PSU are much better than his.

I explained my choices in great detail to him, and sent links to benchmarks and reviews of each component. I had to work hard to convince him to spend the extra $10 and go with a i5-2500k instead of an i5-760!! He's quite computer literate, and I just can't fathom why, for example, he would have picked clearly inferior components...and paid more for them.

Should I be annoyed? I worked hard on that build too. Got up early on my day off any everything...
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post #2 of 17
Not sure why he ordered the Blue.. isn't the F3 the fastest 1TB 7200RPM drive out there right now?
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post #3 of 17
When you task yourself to smite the uneducated with your superior knowledge expect to run into a brick wall, in addition to that the person in question is rarely thankful for it.
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post #4 of 17
His computer is fine. I'm not sure why he made the PSU choice change, but at least he didn't grab a crappy one. (Although the Toughpower is inferior to the Corsair)
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post #5 of 17
You shouldn't be annoyed, it is not your money. If he asks you to put it together for him, don't. When (Assuming thermaltake is the same crappy company they were two years ago) something goes wrong he'll probably put the blame on you.
post #6 of 17
Quote:
Originally Posted by r34p3rex View Post
Not sure why he ordered the Blue.. isn't the F3 the fastest 1TB 7200RPM drive out there right now?
even the black is better than blue. i'm pretty sure the f3 is above the black too.
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post #7 of 17
i5 760 isnt crap.
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post #8 of 17
Quote:
Originally Posted by GlockZoR IV View Post
i5 760 isnt crap.
Says the i5 760 owner For $10 more, the 2500k is a much better buy.. plus, 1156 is a dead socket.
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post #9 of 17
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by r34p3rex
Not sure why he ordered the Blue.. isn't the F3 the fastest 1TB 7200RPM drive out there right now?
I'm not sure either. The Spinpoint was cheaper and in a killer combo deal. The WD Caviar Black is above it in some benchmarks, but it's always much more expensive.

Quote:
Originally Posted by sLowEnd
His computer is fine.
Yes, I know. But my build was better and cheaper. And I showed him the hard data - benchmarks and reviews - to prove it.


I'm just frustrated after putting a few hours of my time into this and being, essentially, ignored for my trouble. I just don't understand why he wants to pay more for less.
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Hard DriveOptical DriveOSMonitor
Samsung Spinpoint F3 1TB 7200RPM Lite-On 24x DVD Burner Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit HP 2310m 
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post #10 of 17
r34p3rex is right . You just can't go better than SB for now . Besides the fact that they are built on a better architecture , they OC MUCH MUCH BETTER . Show me a i5 760 hitting 5.0 Ghz on something else except LN2 .
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