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Because modern warfare umpteen isn't?

Your just mad because you finally came across a game that actually takes skill. Not like noob of duty.


No Crysis 2 takes no skill. It is COD: Nanosuit Edition, that's why I am upset.

At least in Crysis I decided how to complete each level. Feel like swimming in the ocean and making a beach assualt. Can do. Want to kill them one by one in Stealth mode can do. C2, travel this path, shoot. Haven't I played this before? Yep in the last 4 COD's . No skill involved, but hey at least the console kiddies can enjoy it.
    
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I did address the people who haven't played it and said that there comments are a little unwarranted. The reason why a say a little because people do value user and sites reviews. Since some reviews(user) are saying the game isn't like the first Crysis, they will dismiss the game. Others will say the game is awesome and people will buy it because of that review. Some gamers rather not take a risk to try the game for themselves, $50-60 is a steep investment for some. The negative perception of Crysis 2 is reality for many.

As for the elitists term, it's slamming the people who spend more than the norm on their PC, just like it would be unfair for high end PC owners to slam people with laptops and low end or outdated PCs for gaming. I think we can come up with a better term than elitists, I'm sure it sounds cool, but it doesn't properly describe a "gamer" who is uninformed, prejudges or ignorant of the facts.

"Nonsensical Gamers" is a start. That keeps those type of gamers in a box and it doesn't spill over to gamers like myself that like to upgrade often. I will like to see more games take advantage of DX11, as we saw in EPIC's Good Samaritan demo it can be very impressive if it becomes a main focus in PC games. I'm not going to apologize for having the latest hardware and wanting games to take advantage of it, but that doesn't make me an elitist since the stuff is for sale to everyone. DX9/10 cards are not even sold by major retailers anymore, everything sold now are DX11 cards. The DX11 video cards shouldn't be up for sale if it's not going to be the main focus of current and future titles, trash them and go back to cheaper DX9 cards, but that would be nonsensical.
The issue is the negative perception is mostly based on falsehoods that were being thrown around before the game was even released.
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For the billionth time. DX10 graphics cards can play DX11 games. They just can't use any of the features that require the hardware to run.
Thx man, actually this is the first time I hear this .
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I can definitely understand the want for the dx11 patch. Here we are two generations into direct x 11 video cards and we can could on one hand the dx11 titles that are out there. Maybe two hands if we talk about support tacked on that really doesn't do so much for the game. Heck we just finally got 3Dmark11 after cards that support the api had been out over a year easy. If the patch is implemented right though, dx 11 and tessellation could prove be be rather amazing for the game and engine for future titles that use it.

One thing is for sure, and I wonder if many people out there have learned there lesson. It is definitely a good idea to wait a little bit to upgrade to brand new cards that are first to support the latest direct x if they don't need it, because it takes a good year or two for there to be a big enough user base before developers will spend the time and money creating games that support it. I have seen plenty of people upgrade their second gen dx11 cards without ever really using their first for what they were meant for. Maybe some benchies I just upgraded from my tri 280s this week. Those cards were fantastic and really still are. They ran dx9 crysis 2, bc2, warhead and many other games @ 2560x1600 just fine.
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Can't wait to see what difference we might see, if any. This will be especially awesome if this game ends up being modded like how Crysis has been.
 
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MEH! Crysis 2 sucked. DX11 implementation almost always sucks. Retroactive API patch-ins always suck. Crysis 2 + DX11 patched in retroactively will still suck.

At least they're TRYING to save face on this one but honestly it couldn't make any damn difference to the people who actually cared in the first place.
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a little off topic...but thank God I have Battlefield 2 to play!!!
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I did address the people who haven't played it and said that there comments are a little unwarranted. The reason why a say a little because people do value user and sites reviews. Since some reviews(user) are saying the game isn't like the first Crysis, they will dismiss the game. Others will say the game is awesome and people will buy it because of that review. Some gamers rather not take a risk to try the game for themselves, $50-60 is a steep investment for some. The negative perception of Crysis 2 is reality for many.

As for the elitists term, it's slamming the people who spend more than the norm on their PC, just like it would be unfair for high end PC owners to slam people with laptops and low end or outdated PCs for gaming. I think we can come up with a better term than elitists, I'm sure it sounds cool, but it doesn't properly describe a "gamer" who is uninformed, prejudges or ignorant of the facts.

"Nonsensical Gamers" is a start. That keeps those type of gamers in a box and it doesn't spill over to gamers like myself that like to upgrade often. I will like to see more games take advantage of DX11, as we saw in EPIC's Good Samaritan demo it can be very impressive if it becomes a main focus in PC games. I'm not going to apologize for having the latest hardware and wanting games to take advantage of it, but that doesn't make me an elitist since the stuff is for sale to everyone. DX9/10 cards are not even sold by major retailers anymore, everything sold now are DX11 cards. The DX11 video cards shouldn't be up for sale if it's not going to be the main focus of current and future titles, trash them and go back to cheaper DX9 cards, but that would be nonsensical.
I spend more than your average person. I'm part of the 5% that can use Dx11. I DON'T consider myself a PC Elitist b/c I'm not having a dick measuring contest about which version of Crysis 2 is the best and if the PC version of Crysis 2 has slightly more realistic grass. I don't consider console players 13 yr olds just b/c a few are. I don't cry if my version of the game isn't tailored for my 5850 specifically. And obviously just because I'm the most outspoken person on this forum about PC elitists doesn't mean I'm the only one that sees them. They've been in the background for years:



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No Crysis 2 takes no skill. It is COD: Nanosuit Edition, that's why I am upset.

At least in Crysis I decided how to complete each level. Feel like swimming in the ocean and making a beach assualt. Can do. Want to kill them one by one in Stealth mode can do. C2, travel this path, shoot. Haven't I played this before? Yep in the last 4 COD's . No skill involved, but hey at least the console kiddies can enjoy it.
If you think it takes no skill, play me. I'm FunkDrSpot on steam and in crysis 2.

Not only does it combine the regular aspects of any FPS ( read: Guns and people ) but you have to know how to manage your power levels for your suit. You have to remember when to cloak, run, armor up and when to fire. Spend too much time running and cloaking and you have no energy for armor when you meet up with someone.

And unlike CS, you can't just camp away the day at a choke point.
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Separating PC gamers into groups is an elitists act in itself.
Pointing to the sig. You might think I might be biased on this subject, but in no means am I irrational. PC elitists are those who FuNkDrSpOt has clearly stated.

PC elitists on the other hand fixate themselves, as FuNkDrSpOt as depicted, on these minor contexts that give them some sort of entitlement to allow them to feel that they are better then anyone else on the street. The lack of DX11 is a disappointment, but added graphical features to an already great looking game (which indeed looks better then ANY dx11 title on the market) does not in any means mean the game is garbage. Let alone, it having a similar play style to MW does not make it a bad game.

The disgust in MW arises from the title. It is not a classic CoD game. Many classic PC gamers don't feel that MW, MW2, CoD WaW, and Black Ops should hold the CoD name. The true CoD series was 1 and 2. This feeling spread to elitists who were not big PC gamers of that era, and, as you describe, ignorant or ill-informed gamers. MW itself is not a horrible game, but due to past issues with its naming just provoked the further development of hate for the game and its players. First it was Halo. It got popular and its player based labelled it as a "Pro Game" which did not reflect anything of what the game really was. Due to the link of Crysis2 and CoD just has these elitists continue to build on the regret for the related game rather then the game itself. This thinking is irrational, especially when these elitists make bloated claims of lacking DX11 to make their "superior" epeen larger then the others. PC gaming is not about superiority, although it being platform of competitive and gaming in general choice as the input of mouse and keyboard greatly exceeds the consoler, it is about gaming and enjoying the game that is unique in itself. In a sense CoD is ruining this, and it is, as it makes gaming a cash cow rather then an experience.

I complain over similar things; being that many games that share the title of many classics do not hold up to their name. It is a big disappointment of the decline of many great titles because they decided to take innovation and "no limitations" and sweep it under the rug. Their are some good games, regardless of their similarities to other games, that do have enough content that allows them to distinguished from other games. Calling Crysis 2 a CoD variant is like calling DoD a CoD variant. They play similar, they have similar kits, but there is enough differences in play style that make them noticeably different games. Just like CnC and SC.

We need PC gaming.
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You guys can bash how Crysis 2 is bad but i like it. Sure i like Crysis 1 way better but seriously.. just wait til all us of modders get our hands on the final product release of sandbox 3 and dx11. Think of how much we can change the world of Crysis 2 like we did with the original? Imagine the possibilities. Don't give up hope on it. Sure you can get excited for Battlefield 3, Portal 2 and more other games!
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