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I can run any game @ 1920x1080, high settings at ~60+ FPS as long as I keep the AA/AF down. I'm at 850 core and I'm idling at 23C, max temp is 56C.
Zero problems here.
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It is hard to choose.
What is each priced at where you will buying from? I'd say if the 560 15-25% more $ it's priced properly and your choice should be based on what you can afford. If it's any more than about +35% I'd go w/the 460.

Oh, and the 460 doesn't have any 'strange problems' that I remember hearing about
    
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The 560 will definatly give you the best bang for buck, will run much cooler and silent with more overclocking head room and is also very good for power consumption
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GPU overclock is based on the way the video card alone is made. This is why you can buy cards that already have overclocks on them.
Believe me, I'm fully aware of that.
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Overall top-end speed of each card at max OC's (you can still OC the card regardless of motherboard) you're probably looking at like +10-30% FPS difference (depending on the game in question, and how good of OC'ers you got) in favor of the 560.

At the lower end of what's likely to be the average difference, around 15%, you're talking about a difference you're unlikely to ever see w/the naked eye (going from 50fps to 57fps, for example), and one which is unlikely to be large enough to allow higher 'max playable settings' on the faster card.

At the other end of possible average differences, say around +25% (going from 60fps to 75fps) you get into the range where maybe the 460 can play Crysis at VH w/2xAA, and the 560 can do it at the same FPS, but w/4xAA (or maybe even 8xAA).

So there's a chance you'll get higher playable settings with the 560 in certain games, but again it depends on how good of OC'ers you got in each case, and on teh game itself.

TBH the cards are identical in so many ways that the difference between them is going to be a 'base difference' of around +10% for the extra shaders and better z-culling on the 560, + the difference in clocks you're able to achieve w/your particular samples.

So look at prices where you'd be buying it, and take those numbers into consideration.
Brett, I always look forward to reading your posts because you put so much effort in them.

I think there is enough data here to make your decision. Hopefully, you are able to replace that motherboard soon and up your CPU clock. I had a 2.9GHz CPU and it was affecting my games very badly on my 460SE. I put the new X2 555 BE in and almost all my problems were over, especially when I unlocked the 2 dormant cores and clocked it up to 4.2.
 
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post #27 of 38
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I'll be thinking about this....

I have those pre-built PSU's (low quality) and I'm not going to feel safe with a GTX 550 in my computer with that PSU.

I'll see what I can afford.
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Budget it out and pick out a few upgrades yourself. Let us know your top end and we can make some comments on it.

Do me a favor though, the guys selling used parts on here are usually very dependable. Look at their ratings and consider some options they may have for sale. I just sold a sandy bridge mb/cpu/memory that I used for 1 month very lightly and for much less than the parts are selling for now.

I have a 460 SE for sale on eBay that ends tomorrow and I bet I get 115 out of it and it cost me 139. I only used it in an SLI config for 2 weeks. I never even overclocked it.

Cut some corners and maximize that cash!

PS. I use 260 watts when I game with my 460SE. Get a PSU for sure. I have seen decent ones for under 60 bucks on newegg.
 
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post #29 of 38
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Overall top-end speed of each card at max OC's (you can still OC the card regardless of motherboard) you're probably looking at like +10-30% FPS difference (depending on the game in question, and how good of OC'ers you got) in favor of the 560.

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At the other end of possible average differences, say around +25% (going from 60fps to 75fps) you get into the range where maybe the 460 can play Crysis at VH w/2xAA, and the 560 can do it at the same FPS, but w/4xAA (or maybe even 8xAA).

So there's a chance you'll get higher playable settings with the 560 in certain games, but again it depends on how good of OC'ers you got in each case, and on teh game itself.

TBH the cards are identical in so many ways that the difference between them is going to be a 'base difference' of around +10% for the extra shaders and better z-culling on the 560, + the difference in clocks you're able to achieve w/your particular samples.

So look at prices where you'd be buying it, and take those numbers into consideration.
This.

To add to that, I'd say that it really depends on what you're doing with your computer. With the exception of GPU-focussed gaming, your CPU is going to be a bottleneck.

I would also say that it depends on your future plans. If you're planning on upgrading your MB/CPU in the very near future, go for the 560; otherwise the 460 is most likely going to be your best value.
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post #30 of 38
The 560 Ti has always interested me but I don't understand why Nvidia chose to give them 1gb of Vram. If they had 1.5-2gb to me that would be worth the price difference over the 460, but as it stands right now I don't see a great value, not when a 2GB 6950 can be had for slightly more.
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