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Hey everyone,
I have a pretty crappy PSU right now.. it's a 500W no name brand swapped off of an eMachine. So it needs to go.. especially if I am looking at upgrading my graphics card in the near future..

But what should I be looking for exactly in a good PSU? I see things like Rails and Amps.. and that a 550W no name brand will not be able to run a GTX470 but a Corsair 500W will.. etc.

Stuff like that.. it makes me kind of confused. Perhaps I am only looking at the Wattage in a PSU and that is the problem.. I need to be looking at the full picture?

And is a PSU actually one of the most future proof investments in PC hardware? Or is this a myth? Is there no need to upgrade to another really good one (bigger + better) until my existing one dies off?

To note, I don't forsee myself going with SLI or Crossfire anytime in the future (I think that one really good GPU is more than capable of running games). So should something like a 650W Corsair be more than capable of handling a GTX590 and beyond to the GTX 6, 7, 8 + series in the future? I know these are all predictions at this point and nobody knows for sure.. but just trying to get a feel for how this all works..

Basically, when the newer and more advanced GPUs come out will more power be demanded to draw out of them or will the technology be improved enough to power a GTX900 series with a Corsair 650W PSU? Or by that time will I most likely need a Corsair 1000W?

Just curious...
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post #2 of 28
A top quality PSU is an excellent investment - it protects your other components from damage (PSU blowing up, or bad power regulation leading to power spikes and degrading components) - also higher quality PSU's will use less power while also being able to supply cleaner power.

A good top quality 650W should be able to power all of your future needs for the next several years, and as tech goes on components should get more efficient for performance. You won't be sorry if you get a nice quality PSU, it should be the building block to any good system.
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The PSU is the foundation because everything depends on it to provide clean and stable power. Unfortunately, it takes time to truly understand why. :/

Fortunately though, you're here so that's half the battle.
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post #4 of 28
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I hear lots of good things about Corsair PSU's. Is there another brand I should be looking at for clean power?

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post #5 of 28
Here are your two best friends:

http://www.overclock.net/power-suppl...-supplies.html
http://www.overclock.net/power-suppl...-database.html

As to my personal recommendation, if you want future proof and brilliant, I would go 850. Now this is ONLY if you want something to last you a very long time, it is more than you will need by far.

You should definitely invest in a quality PSU, the amount of time you want it to last you is up to you..a quality PSU will outlive the rest of your hardware so me personally, I like it to be able to put out a wattage that will last with future tech.
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post #6 of 28
If you don't really care about the technical side of things, you can just refer to the recommended PSU sticky topic. Corsair units are indeed good (they range from average to excellent), but there is often a "Corsair tax" (like the Apple tax), i.e. you can typically get a better value elsewhere.
post #7 of 28
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Originally Posted by revlimiter View Post
I hear lots of good things about Corsair PSU's. Is there another brand I should be looking at for clean power?

Thanks!
Unfortunately, it's not about the brand names, but about the specific units that each brand offers. Even Corsair has PSUs that aren't worth buying thanks to what else is available out on the market.
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post #8 of 28
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This 750W Corsair seems like a really good PSU
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product...82E16817139006
With an extra $10 MIR and free shipping too.

But it sounds like there are a ton of wires included with it so the air flow might be worse off then it is now. What are those modular PSU's called?

Also, this helps me determine what I will need. http://images10.newegg.com/BizIntell...alc/index.html
As long as I am not running SLI then I think I can get by with 750W for a while.
    
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post #9 of 28
The TX750 is a prime example of a Corsair unit people should no longer be getting.
It was recently superseded by the TX750V2, a much improved unit, which you can usually find for the same price.
The XFX Core Edition 750W is the same unit as the TX750V2 internally and can typically be bought for less money.
The Antec TruePower New TP-750 is also typically cheaper and offers a similar level of quality as the TX750V2 and the aforementioned XFX.
post #10 of 28
Quote:
Originally Posted by revlimiter View Post
This 750W Corsair seems like a really good PSU
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product...82E16817139006
With an extra $10 MIR and free shipping too.

But it sounds like there are a ton of wires included with it so the air flow might be worse off then it is now. What are those modular PSU's called?

Also, this helps me determine what I will need. http://images10.newegg.com/BizIntell...alc/index.html
As long as I am not running SLI then I think I can get by with 750W for a while.
Try to avoid PSU calculators and instead try to depend on Overclock.net's Power Supplies forum.

Anyway, those modular PSUs are just called modular PSUs.


Quote:
Originally Posted by Shub View Post
The TX750 is a prime example of a Corsair unit people should no longer be getting.
It was recently superseded by the TX750V2, a much improved unit, which you can usually find for the same price.
The XFX Core Edition 750W is the same unit as the TX750V2 internally and can typically be bought for less money.
The Antec TruePower New TP-750 is also typically cheaper and offers a similar level of quality as the TX750V2 and the aforementioned XFX.
Unfortunately, the prices on the Canadian Newegg site are very different (I just noticed).
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