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I see we are still discussing the AM3 versses the AM3+. You do know the socket construct has a full set of pins under the white plastic. (see pic) Has pretty much been this way since AM2.

AMD has simply been moving the block-outs and shifting the pin location on the CPU to allow or disallow fitment. Hence, AM3 CPU fits AM2+ socket, but AM2+ CPU would not fit AM3 socket.

The current AM3 socket has 8 pins blocked out that could be used for future expantion. The new AM3+ socket has unblocked one of those pin locations. (see pic) The current AM3 CPU has 2 pin locations open that it does not use. (see pic)

The AMD socket has more than enought pins for expantion in the future. A new chipset and BIOS updates to utilize some of the unused pin locations does the trick.

The one thing that I can see that would require a socket update, is AMD running out of room on the current chip platform.

I am sure that I am going to catch some crap from the uninformed and the disbelievers. Bring it!

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Edited by headmixer - 5/13/11 at 5:01pm
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Quote:
Originally Posted by headmixer View Post
I see we are still discussing the AM3 versses the AM3+. You do know the socket construct has a full set of pins under the white plastic. (see pic) Has pretty much been this way since AM2.

AMD has simply been moving the block-outs and shifting the pin location on the CPU to allow or disallow fitment. Hence, AM3 CPU fits AM2+ socket, but AM2+ CPU would not fit AM3 socket.

The current AM3 socket has 8 pins blocked out that could be used for future expantion. The new AM3+ socket has unblocked one of those pin locations. (see pic) The current AM3 CPU has 2 pin locations open that it does not use. (see pic)

The AMD socket has more than enought pins for expantion in the future. A new chipset and BIOS updates to utilize some of the unused pin locations does the trick.

The one thing that I can see that would require a socket update, is AMD running out of room on the current chip platform.

I am sure that I am going to catch some crap from the uninformed and the disbelievers. Bring it!
Nice information, did you break off the plastic on a motherboard for the first pic? xD

Didn't know there were full contacts under the plastic. Either way, it still adds fuel to the "it has a good possibility it can work" fire.

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Yes,

I had an MSI NF980-G65 the SATA fail on, so I donated it to the cause. It just snaps right off if you are careful.
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then just drill a hole where you need it...
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Yes,

I had an MSI NF980-G65 the SATA fail on, so I donated it to the cause. It just snaps right off if you are careful.
If it does just go off that easy, maybe we can have some kind of a deal, you know 50 bucks for the socket and instructions about how to mount and dismount


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and now that I think about it, that is not a bad idea, that would be a kick in the nuts, ohhh Intel fanboys...
Edited by christoph - 4/10/11 at 12:30pm
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post #26 of 50
My motherboard isnt on the list... but i dont care lol i was planning on replacing my motherboard anyway, so ill just wait till the Official AM3+ Boards come out on the market then upgrade but yeah i cant wiat for the new bulldozer line of AMD Processors.
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Well this thread proves what I had thought: Everyone that has the AM3 mobo that can flash the BIOS thinks that BD will run just fine on that platform, NOBODY KNOWS!!! Even the mobo makers are tight lipped about what features are going NOT to work on BD when running on AM3 boards, OH yeah, that pesky little NDA keeps getting in the way. Oh and don't forget the fact that AMD is not supporting BD on AM3, PERIOD. So, if something fries, the bill is on you or the mobo maker, not AMD. I feel sorry for RMA/tech departments when BD comes out. Like I have said before: Sit on your hands and WAIT. More info will be out there soon and we all can make an educated choice in what to buy. IMO.
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http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=2156179

The overclockers.com interview was with Damon Munzy (thanks hokiealumnus!). It would seem that Josh Walrath was correct about the black socket motherboards still being "AM3" even though the physical socket looks like AM3+. It appears that AMD only considers true AM3+ to be the physical socket combined with a 900-series chipset (this combination is Scorpius), and that platform is likely to be required to "support new power management features as well as “boosting technology†(turbo boost)".
    
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The overclockers.com interview was with Damon Munzy (thanks hokiealumnus!). It would seem that Josh Walrath was correct about the black socket motherboards still being "AM3" even though the physical socket looks like AM3+. It appears that AMD only considers true AM3+ to be the physical socket combined with a 900-series chipset (this combination is Scorpius), and that platform is likely to be required to "support new power management features as well as “boosting technology†(turbo boost)".
You really killed my upgrade dreams
Let s just wait for the new CPU s to come and we will see then whats what.

I m still wondering where are the new 900 based mobos.They should of been on the market already.
   
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The people who think their board being on the list means they can stick an AM3+ cpu in should check their board revision on their manf. site and see. Almost all new AM3 board revisions have a new socket that will support both AM3 and AM3+. The old revisons will not support AM3+.
 
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