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Originally Posted by TwoCables View Post
If it weren't for the ISPs, then we wouldn't have internet access.

The government doesn't provide me internet access.

The FCC certainly doesn't.

So who does? Internet Service Providers.

Who made it possible for the internet to work? Who laid down all those cables and fiber optics?
ISPs provide you with internet because they make billions of dollars off of it. Our internet is not competitive with many parts of the world while our ISPs remain very profitable. How is that laudable again? Also, there are a lot of people who would LOVE the government to nationalize internet, but they can't without causing a huge uproar. I don't understand how ISPs providing you with internet makes them trustworthy or causes you to be grateful. ISPs are widely thought to take advantage of the market and their monopoly status.

Not to mention, this isn't some hypothetical government regulation of the internet, this is the FCC regulating the regulation of the internet by ISPs. I don't understand how it opens pandora's box. It takes away too much freedom from ISPs? It certainly doesn't hurt the user.
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post #42 of 89
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If ISPs were to do this, then they'd lose customers:




I guarantee you that they don't want this because guess what: without us (their customers), they can't stay in business.

If your ISP did this, then what are the chances you'd stop being their customer? What are the chances they'd lose the majority of their customers?
And without them, we dont have interent.
post #43 of 89
But who is implementing it...

you're going to have republicans screaming socialism if the govt provides internet.

there's goign to be a lot more censoring too
    
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post #44 of 89
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If ISPs were to do this, then they'd lose customers:




I guarantee you that they don't want this because guess what: without us (their customers), they can't stay in business.

If your ISP did this, then what are the chances you'd stop being their customer? What are the chances they'd lose the majority of their customers?
Many people don't have a choice of ISP. What is the alternative? Go without internet? Not an option these days. Not to mention, if ISPs have to intention of doing that, then what is the harm of these new FCC rules?
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post #45 of 89
LOL at you guys who mis-understood this on the first page.

I don't want net neutrality. I want the FCC to illegalize arbitrary (and intentional) throttling of personal internet speeds for whatever reason, and prevent the two-tiered billing schemes going on, as I feel prices are too high, or at least not justified by the service provided. Other than that, I am fine if they stay out of it. I'm actually fine with the current caps, as I don't use nearly that much bandwidth in a month (mine is 250gb).
    
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post #46 of 89
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ISPs provide you with internet because they make billions of dollars off of it. Our internet is not competitive with many parts of the world while our ISPs remain very profitable. How is that laudable again? Also, there are a lot of people who would LOVE the government to nationalize internet, but they can't without causing a huge uproar. I don't understand how ISPs providing you with internet makes them trustworthy or causes you to be grateful. ISPs are widely thought to take advantage of the market and their monopoly status.

Not to mention, this isn't some hypothetical government regulation of the internet, this is the FCC regulating the regulation of the internet by ISPs. I don't understand how it opens pandora's box. It takes away too much freedom from ISPs? It certainly doesn't hurt the user.
Words of wisdom right here.
    
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post #47 of 89
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If ISPs were to do this, then they'd lose customers:




I guarantee you that they don't want this because guess what: without us (their customers), they can't stay in business.

If your ISP did this, then what are the chances you'd stop being their customer? What are the chances they'd lose the majority of their customers?

What if this becomes the only option, either tiered access or non at all, how many people would say "hey you know what, I'm not going to pay for this I can live without the internet"
Edited by Tekgun - 4/8/11 at 4:24pm
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What if this becomes the only option, either tired access or non at all, how many people would say "hey you know what, I'm not going to pay for this I can live without the internet"
What if you were an ISP? Without your customers, how would you be able to stay in business?

How can any business stay in business if their business decision results in the majority of their customers angrily going away?

No ISP wants to do what is in that image.
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post #49 of 89
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What if you were an ISP? Without your customers, how would you be able to stay in business?

How can any business stay in business if their business decision results in the majority of their customers angrily going away?
Activision. Yep. Prime example right there. The general public wouldnt know different and still give their money at big companies who charge higher.

And then you, the educated users move to an unlimited connection, which is then dealt high pings whenever you'd want to connect to your favourite game server.

Just because the big ISP company can..
post #50 of 89
If I were an ISP, then I would provide the same unlimited internet access that we have today because that would guarantee that I will always have customers which means I'll always be in business.

If you keep your customers happy, then you stay in business.
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