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I had a 5 year old HP - AMD system take a deuce on me (not literally, you get the point lol) I switched back to Intel and went on with a budget gamer build (mostly for stuff like GRAW and GRAW2, Star Trek Legacy, CS: Source/HL2/DOD Source). It seems very stable and plays all my games like a champ. I scored 15000 on 3dMark06 which I guess isn't terrible (http://3dmark.com/3dm06/15610534)


So here's the rig...

Core i3 540 3.06GHz
4GB Patriot DDR3 @ 1333 MHz
Gigabyte H55M-S2V Motherboard, rev 1.4
eVGA GTS-450 SuperClocked, 1GB GDDR5
1TB Western Digital HDD - SATA2, 16mb Buffer, 7200RPM
250GB Western Digital HDD - SATA1, 8mb Buffer, 7200RPM
CreativeLabs X-Fi Titanium


Cooling consists of the stock fan/sink setups on my GPU and CPU, plus 1 front 140mm exhaust, rear and side 120mm exhaust, dual 120mm top intakes, 120mm ventral intake. CPU/GPU sits at 20/28c idle, and 39/45 under GRAW2 at max settings, 1080p on a 23" LCD via HDMI. Heard doing it through the BIOS is a better idea. Thats where you guys come in.


Anyone got suggestions or ideas where to start? I wanna try and hit about 3.4 to 3.8GHz, get my RAM up to 1666MHz or so, and see what my video card is capable of.
Edited by kymera_gr7 - 4/9/11 at 12:18am
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What is with the two different sized HDD's? It doesn't make sense. You're better off with the 1TB by itself.
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The 250 is an old drive that I use for LFS (linux from scratch). Old friend of mine recently showed me a bit about LFS so I'm gonna use my old HDD to play around with.

So can anyone help suggest some good memory timings, voltages for RAM and CPU, back-clock, multipliers? Where should I start??
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What is with the two different sized HDD's? It doesn't make sense. You're better off with the 1TB by itself.
Having 2 HDDs is fanstastic. If one breaks you have the other, one can be detached and taken elsewhere etc. the list is almost endless. Personally? I have 3 HDDs.

Could you stretch to the i5? The i3 is pretty low tbh and it would mean you buying an already slow CPU.

Could you go 6GB ram? 4 is ok today, but 6 would be better. 12 is not needed atm.

The GFX is D10 which is nice, but again a bit slow.

Is that the Titanium HD sound card? Cos' if it is I can recommend it (I can has one). Let me know if you have difficulty with getting the drivers though I've got them all somewhere.


Overall a combination of slow and fast. Please let us know how much you are willing to spend. If you were willing to go a bit further with you cash you could really help yourself.
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I went with i3 since I've been kinda broke, I just bought a new car haha. I'm going to actually double my RAM and get some 1600MHz sticks (2x4GB) next payday, and I'm considering getting a low end i7, probably a 920. I'm not an extreme gamer lol

Check your sources, GTS-450 is a DX11 card :] Though in hindsight the week after I bought my 450 superclocked, the price of the 460 dropped to almost match it ._____.

I haven't had any problems with ANY driver software on my machine actually. I'm even running the 270.51 beta drivers from nVidia and they perform flawlessly on anything and everything lol. Its a ridiculously stable machine.
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Oops meant to say DX11 XD.

The drivers for the sound card work fine, for me it was getting them that was the tough part. And yes, a i7 920 would be excellent if you could stretch it as it would mean you have the latest series of CPU and it can be overclocked as far as 4Ghz.

Btw if you did go i7 then you should get 6 and not 8 gig ram, and tighten the timings until they're leet .
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So can anyone help suggest some good memory timings, voltages for RAM and CPU, back-clock, multipliers? Where should I start??
Start off with the default memory timings and shave off 1 number from each of them and then test it using memtest for at least 6 hours, and then repeat until you can't get any lower. 95% of people on this forum have 1600 memory, and my timings are 6-7-7-18-1t. Setting 1t/1n is a must have really and then one by one drop those other numbers. Set the voltage to whatever the manfacturer wants. It'll take weeks or whatever to refine, but you'll get there eventually.

For the rest just google it. There's so many guides and the one above is just my own. I'd tell you about my CPU overclock, but it isnt' stable yet.
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Thanks for the tips brohan. BTW as far as I've heard, dont use EasyTune or other programs to OC? Do it from my BIOS? Right?

Just outta curiosity, is there some kind of bottleneck that happens at 8 gigs VS 6 gigs?? If not whats the purpose of having less RAM?
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Less RAM can be overclocked better. Plus more RAM = more money, unnecessary, more power usage.

Overclock only from the BIOS. Overclock your graphics cards using Windows programs like MSI Afterburner (personal fav.)
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OK gotcha man. Thanks a bunch you've been a real big help I set my goal a bit higher, I wanna hit 4 GHz. Is it possible to get my RAM frequency higher? I think I saw something other than timings regarding frequency in my BIOS options.

I have an eVGA GTS-450 SC, the precision tool seems pretty good, basic interface for a beginner like me. Or is there a better program? Cuz I hear with voltage tweaks the 450 can hit 950-975mhz core speed.
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