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Just for a test! Why don't you try the easy overclock button in the bios, and see what temps that gives you
And if that gives you cooler temps, then it's your settings!
But if the temps are just as bad. Then maybe you need to re-do the CPU cooler

That button gives me 4.4GHz

Oh, and this one gave me 4.944GHz


Well, im goin to try that, but what is the software you suded to get it to 4.9Ghz?
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Well, im goin to try that, but what is the software you suded to get it to 4.9Ghz?
It's the ASUS AI Suite II

Some might say don't use it! But things do seen to have changed, and ASUS put a chip on the board just for the auto tuning TPU chip

What I do is run the extreme one! Then stop it after it passes at the speed I want
The video I posted does explain quite a bit
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Guys, be careful with the OC utility. It doesn't have any neat tricks at all, it just raises voltage and multiplier until the system crashes, then does the same thing with the bus.

It may put some voltages on your chip that you are uncomfortable with.

Also, is it still bad to OC the FSB? I thought you were supposed to leave that at 100.
    
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Guys, be careful with the OC utility. It doesn't have any neat tricks at all, it just raises voltage and multiplier until the system crashes, then does the same thing with the bus.

It may put some voltages on your chip that you are uncomfortable with.

Also, is it still bad to OC the FSB? I thought you were supposed to leave that at 100.
Are you claiming to know better than ASUS
I'm not having a pop at you bud. I'm just interested to know how qualified you are to go against ASUS, that's all
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Are you claiming to know better than ASUS
I'm not having a pop at you bud. I'm just interested to know how qualified you are to go against ASUS, that's all
I tried what you said, i tried the easy OC in the bios, now its at 4.4Ghz its around 25-31 at stock while stresstesting, i get around 65c does this sound better?=/ thx for help
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Are you claiming to know better than ASUS
I'm not having a pop at you bud. I'm just interested to know how qualified you are to go against ASUS, that's all
Let me put it this way. EVGA's OC tuner program has a check box to remove the power/load limiter on 500 series NVIDIA cards. Everyone was happy using their 570/590 with those features disabled until they started blowing up.

I don't know more than ASUS. I don't know more than EVGA. But what I do know is that just because you are given an option for things, doesn't mean they are 100% safe and foolproof. You still have to know what the button you are clicking is actually doing and use it accordingly.
    
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Guys, be careful with the OC utility. It doesn't have any neat tricks at all, it just raises voltage and multiplier until the system crashes, then does the same thing with the bus.

It may put some voltages on your chip that you are uncomfortable with.

Also, is it still bad to OC the FSB? I thought you were supposed to leave that at 100.
I agree. Call it personal preference, but I don't like the settings that the tuner changes and have witnessed mixed results.

By far the best guide anyone looking to OC these Sandy Chips is:

http://www.clunk.org.uk/forums/overc...beginners.html

Simple, easy, step by step instructions guide you through the whole process. One thing I have found is that even though the guide doesn't mention touching the VCCIO and VCCSA voltages until you get past 4.5, I have seen that cure instability in systems running at lower speeds.

To the OP, I would pull your CPU cooler and reapply the thermal paste. Make sure to take your time and do it right. Then I would put your BIOS back to default and go through the guide. You have good parts there, so you should have some success once the heat issue is resolved.
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Are you claiming to know better than ASUS
I'm not having a pop at you bud. I'm just interested to know how qualified you are to go against ASUS, that's all
I don't think anyone is claiming to know better than anyone, just sharing experience.

I have found several times that what the OC tool found to be "Stable" just wasn't. If you ran the tool and got results you are happy with, that's all that matters. As you know, each system is different and react differently when being OC'd.

I just think that with the way these chips and boards act when changing the BLCK with relation to memory timing it can cause abnormalities. When you add in the variable to people using different memory types and how processors react differently to OCing...it gets messier than it needs to be. These Sandy chips are great because the can overclock like mad men and be done so very easily.

I have built 2 Sandy Bridge PC's and help 3 other friends with theirs, so I am by no means an "Expert". Something to keep in mind is all the systems I have worked on are left on 24/7. By using the ASUS tool all of them experienced random shut downs, particularly when idle. By going back and doing the OC manually all the systems have been able to maintain 100% stability. My i5-2500K ran 6 days straight folding at 4.5 and didn't blink an eye. The other systems are working just the same.

That is why whenever I see someone having troubles with these setups, I recommend doing the OC manually. The OC tool is nice, but it so easy to do it yourself there is no reason not to.
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I tried what you said, i tried the easy OC in the bios, now its at 4.4Ghz its around 25-31 at stock while stresstesting, i get around 65c does this sound better?=/ thx for help
Higher clocks and lower temps sound better to me
So it seems that the cooler is on OK

It up to you bud, where you go from there!


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I don't think anyone is claiming to know better than anyone, just sharing experience.

I have found several times that what the OC tool found to be "Stable" just wasn't. If you ran the tool and got results you are happy with, that's all that matters. As you know, each system is different and react differently when being OC'd.

I just think that with the way these chips and boards act when changing the BLCK with relation to memory timing it can cause abnormalities. When you add in the variable to people using different memory types and how processors react differently to OCing...it gets messier than it needs to be. These Sandy chips are great because the can overclock like mad men and be done so very easily.

I have built 2 Sandy Bridge PC's and help 3 other friends with theirs, so I am by no means an "Expert". Something to keep in mind is all the systems I have worked on are left on 24/7. By using the ASUS tool all of them experienced random shut downs, particularly when idle. By going back and doing the OC manually all the systems have been able to maintain 100% stability. My i5-2500K ran 6 days straight folding at 4.5 and didn't blink an eye. The other systems are working just the same.

That is why whenever I see someone having troubles with these setups, I recommend doing the OC manually. The OC tool is nice, but it so easy to do it yourself there is no reason not to.
Thanks for the reply

Me, I run the extreme OCer. Then go into the bios and set my bclk back to 100 so as to not overclock my RAM

So I let it test with the 45x and then as it's testing 46x I stop it
This has worked perfect for me
But yeah, maybe not for everyone
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I ran the Auto Tuning on my rig. It only took me up to a little over 4.7ghz. It used a Vcore of 1.312 though, but it raised the Blck to 105 and used a multiplier of 45. When I tried running prime, it would crash within the first few minutes.

I have my rig currently running with 100 x 47 and 1.34 VCore. I've run it for as much as 6 hours on prime and its stable the way I have it. I have been able to get it up over 5.0ghz (1.48V) and stay stable as well (one hour of prime blend). So, while I am anything but an expert, I don't really trust the Asus auto tuning.

In the case of the OP, I think it makes perfect sense to use it as a test to see what's going on with his temps. The guide that someone posted a few posts above is excellent for a newbie and I would suggest following that versus using the auto tuner long term. I certainly don't know more than Asus, but I know that I can get much better results going into the bios and changing things manually on my rig. Just my personal experience...
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