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Well the abundance of DX11 capable GPUs are now being implemented into most OEM gaming rigs. Like the ones you can get custom built with a 5770 and a Phenom II for like $400. There's one such rig under the Buy It Now portion on Ebay. Nice looking computer too.

Not terribly surprising. Happy to see it's working out well enough. ^^ Have to say that it was hard to NOT like Windows XP after I used it all those years. I mean, once you liked Windows 7, you hate XP. That alone was a feat for me.
     
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LOL, wow.. It's usually a good idea to not say anything when you have no idea what you're talking about, bro.
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LOL WHAT?

Linux can easily be most user friendly operating system. My grandma has a net book with a small linux distro and easily learned basic computer tasks that would have been impossible for her on any other operating system.
Not being user-friendly due to lack of familiarity: Ask 20 random people on the street if they know what Linux is, and they wouldn't know anything about it. How would you expect people to know how to operate it if they don't even know what it is?

People are always afraid of change, so if they see a new UI unlike anything they have seen before, they would opt out of it, and go with the much more familiar Windows or Mac OS X.

Limited availability of Applications: Look how many legitimate applications are available on Linux, and compare the number to those on Windows or even Mac OS X.

Limited Hardware compatibility: Linux does not even come close to the compatibility of Windows, and not only that, many companies do not even develop drivers for Linux.

Association with hackers: Most hackers use Linux OSes, and there are many more hacking tools on Linux OSes than any other.

Difficulty to operate: Although some Linux OSes try to welcome new Linux users such as Ubuntu... most are meant for computer savvy people.

Not available to most on retail: Go to any store and try to find a Linux OS on a computer. Good luck.

Well I covered all my points, and yes, I know what I'm talking about... I had an Ubuntu partition on my PC for nearly a year to see what all the fuss was about.
And I'm not trying to say Linux OSes are bad. They're very good, and most supercomputers run on Linux operating systems.
What I am saying is that there are reasons why Linux is only on 0.70% of PCs.
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Association with hackers: Most hackers use Linux OSes, and there are many more hacking tools on Linux OSes than any other.
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Not being user-friendly due to lack of familiarity:
Windows is not user friendly because pure Linux users aren't familiar with it. Do you see how much sense your statement makes? While it's true that most people (erroneously) mean familiarity when they say "user friendliness", familiarity and user friendliness have nothing to do with each other. User friendliness isn't even a concrete concept with any real meaning.
    
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but what about the margin of error? there are plenty of systems not online
The margin of error goes both ways though.

I would like to add though, that Vista SP2 is really no different than Windows 7-- aside from the 7-specific features.


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Windows is not user friendly because pure Linux users aren't familiar with it. Do you see how much sense your statement makes? While it's true that most people (erroneously) mean familiarity when they say "user friendliness", familiarity and user friendliness have nothing to do with each other.
I don't think any software developers care at all about the 0.05% of users that purely know Linux and not Windows, sorry to say. When an OS commands such adoption and numbers as Windows, the ability to argue that it is synonymous with "user friendliness" is strengthened.

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User friendliness isn't even a concrete concept with any real meaning.
While true to some extent, there is an entire industry built around usability engineering.
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Linux is not user friendly, has a very limited range of applications, very limited compatibility with most hardware, usually requires a tech savvy person to be operated, and is associated with hackers....

Yeah... I wonder why. Also, it is not sold on retail laptops and desktops.
Linux has its own version of basically every windows and mac program, and it runs on nearly anything. Install say, ubuntu on any computer, chances are it will work right off the bat without needing you to mess with any drivers at all.

I'd wager it has more to do with the last point, most people don't even know that you can install an OS other than what comes on the systems.
    
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I lol'ed at Vista. My dad is part of that 19%. He hates it so much.
Vista is not that bad.
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I wonder how my rig counts on that. Sometimes it runs 7, sometimes it runs OSX, rarely it runs Ubuntu.
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Windows is not user friendly because pure Linux users aren't familiar with it. Do you see how much sense your statement makes? While it's true that most people (erroneously) mean familiarity when they say "user friendliness", familiarity and user friendliness have nothing to do with each other. User friendliness isn't even a concrete concept with any real meaning.
Windows 7/vista is pretty damn user friendly. Say you dont know where to find a program or application, you just type its name into the start bar and it comes up. Most devices auto install as soon as you plug them in to your computer. And now that MS security essentials is out .. its that much more solid.

Anyone who has a hard time using windows probably has a hard time doing anything.
    
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Linux is not user friendly, has a very limited range of applications, very limited compatibility with most hardware, usually requires a tech savvy person to be operated, and is associated with hackers....

Yeah... I wonder why. Also, it is not sold on retail laptops and desktops.
Limited for some niche markets, but enough for nearly any normal user, just as good compatibility as Windows for most hardware, my grandma operates it perfectly fine.

Get out of 2007, please.

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Not being user-friendly due to lack of familiarity: Ask 20 random people on the street if they know what Linux is, and they wouldn't know anything about it. How would you expect people to know how to operate it if they don't even know what it is?

People are always afraid of change, so if they see a new UI unlike anything they have seen before, they would opt out of it, and go with the much more familiar Windows or Mac OS X.

Limited availability of Applications: Look how many legitimate applications are available on Linux, and compare the number to those on Windows or even Mac OS X.

Limited Hardware compatibility: Linux does not even come close to the compatibility of Windows, and not only that, many companies do not even develop drivers for Linux.

Association with hackers: Most hackers use Linux OSes, and there are many more hacking tools on Linux OSes than any other.

Difficulty to operate: Although some Linux OSes try to welcome new Linux users such as Ubuntu... most are meant for computer savvy people.

Not available to most on retail: Go to any store and try to find a Linux OS on a computer. Good luck.

Well I covered all my points, and yes, I know what I'm talking about... I had an Ubuntu partition on my PC for nearly a year to see what all the fuss was about.
And I'm not trying to say Linux OSes are bad. They're very good, and most supercomputers run on Linux operating systems.
What I am saying is that there are reasons why Linux is only on 0.70% of PCs.
If I don't know what a BMW is, it doesn't make it harder to drive compared to a Mercedes or Ferarri, does it? Sure, people don't like change but if my Grandmother who kept wondering where "That bar in outlook" went finds it easier to use than Windows, nearly anyone will.

Compare how many applications are ones that do the same thing, for example, IE, Firefox, Opera, Chrome, Chromium, etc are all internet browsers, its why Android appears to have a smaller app market compared to iOS.

Okay, name some devices that don't work in any way, some WiFi cards, yes, most TV tuner cards, yes, but I can't think of anything else that has poor support or won't work at all, at least, if you give it a month or so, (Something I increasingly find people having to do with Windows as well anyway...)

Hackers are hobbyist programmers, the news got the wrong word, you're meaning crackers and yeah, they use Linux...Why? It's superior to Windows for their purpose due to its increased security.

It's no more difficult to operate than Windows is, especially for someone who isn't used to either OS and for a power user? It takes a day or two of learning a few commands and you could probably run any distro fine bar Linux From Scratch, it's a perception thing, not an actual fact any more, if you run Linux Mint (Superior to Ubuntu for newer users IMO) like I have for my Grandma...Well, unless you have some very niche uses for your computer, it'll work fine and be very, very easy to use, easier than Windows too because installing programs is done via a single application rather than googling the program and then downloading it.

You serious? Go to any newsagent and go to the computing section, I usually see heaps of books detailing how to install a distro on your computer along with a disc of said distro, add in the fact that nearly everyone who runs Windows just buys the license with their computer and retail presence doesn't matter much.

And which year was that? Windows moves fairly slowly, there hasn't been a major change since Vista came out whereas comparing Ubuntu from then to now would be a massive amount of change.

No, Linux is not perfect and unless someone knows a decent amount of stuff about computers (i.e. Most of the under 30 crowd) then I'd say run Windows if you're used to that, it'll take a large effort to get used to Linux and probably isn't worth it as you have to buy a Windows license when you buy a machine anyway, but to say Linux is less user-friendly than Windows? Nah, using the terminal in Linux is no different from using cmd in Windows, setting up daemons is easier (At least in Arch) than setting up services in Windows...The only thing I find more difficult to do in Linux than in Windows is compile applications and that's because I haven't bothered to learn the commands yet, but how many normal consumers are going to need to compile anything?
    
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