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I'm currently in the process of building a new PC, and should be finished sometime in May. Right now though, I'm undecided on the video card(s) I want to go with, and need some help trying to decide. In order to decide though, I need some help determining if it would be a bad idea to get two 580GTX cards for SLI and only have them running with their stock air coolers. I'm thinking about either getting a single 590GTX card, or if I should get a single 580GTX card now, and possibly throw on a second one a little later for SLI, but I'm not sure if the temps would be too high if I were to do that with the stock air coolers alone though. If the temps would end up being too high, then I'm thinking about just going with the single 590GTX.

I also thought about getting that EVGA water cooled version of the 580GTX, but I have absolutely no idea what would be required to set something like that up, since I'm completely unfamiliar with water cooling a video card (and pretty much water cooling altogether). If someone could maybe give me a quick explanation about what would be required for something like that, it would be appreciated, and would make this decision a whole lot easier to make.
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Yes running 2 580 gtx with stock fans isn't a very good idea. Mine gets pretty hot after a few minutes so I had to make a custom fan profile using msi afterburner and the card still tops at around 70c while playing games like crysis. so right now I'm looking to water cool my card. Also my bad temp could be because of my setup which brings cold air into my radiator and throws it inside my pc raising my overall temperature.
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Right now 1 580 is plenty for any game out there. Are you running nvidia surround?
    
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You could also be like other people and SLi GTX 460's or 560 Ti's.

Both yield better performance than a single 580.
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On a mainboard with good separation, in a case with great cooling, SLi GTX 580's should be fine. I am talking several fans aiming at your GPU's 24/7.
And don't touch the clocks.

Just turn Vsync on, max every setting and enjoy!
Which is pretty much what a single GTX 580 can do, and a 570 overclocked to 580 performance.
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Ouch, yeah I didn't think it would be too good of an idea. It sounds like it would be too much of a hassle, especially if I would have to have a whole bunch of fans aimed at the GPUs always. lol

I think that I'm only going to bother with it if I can educate myself enough to get the water cooled EVGA 580GTXs working.

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Originally Posted by rubicsphere View Post
Right now 1 580 is plenty for any game out there. Are you running nvidia surround?
Nah, but I was planning on getting a single 3D monitor and playing some games in 3D. I thought that a second 580 might help with that.
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What motherboard and case are you planning on using? The slot layout and amount of air flow the case has will make a big difference.

If you can afford to do water cooling, you will be much better off if you decide to SLI two GTX 580. I just finished piecing together my first water cooled build and and it wasn't that difficult. The water cooling forum on here is really useful. Plan to spend at least $300 for the gear to water cool the EVGA hydro coppers if you go that route. If you want to water cool two GTX 580 and a CPU you will need at least a 3 x 120mm fan radiator. Along with a radiator, you will need a pump, reservoir, radiator, fans, some tubing, and some fittings at a minimum.

If however, you decide that you want to keep it simple and stick with air cooling, I would recommend the MSI GTX 580 Lightning, which is in stock at Newegg right now. That card will OC like crazy and it can handle any game you throw at it.
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What motherboard and case are you planning on using? The slot layout and amount of air flow the case has will make a big difference.

If you can afford to do water cooling, you will be much better off if you decide to SLI two GTX 580. I just finished piecing together my first water cooled build and and it wasn't that difficult. The water cooling forum on here is really useful. Plan to spend at least $300 for the gear to water cool the EVGA hydro coppers if you go that route. If you want to water cool two GTX 580 and a CPU you will need at least a 3 x 120mm fan radiator. Along with a radiator, you will need a pump, reservoir, radiator, fans, some tubing, and some fittings at a minimum.

If however, you decide that you want to keep it simple and stick with air cooling, I would recommend the MSI GTX 580 Lightning, which is in stock at Newegg right now. That card will OC like crazy and it can handle any game you throw at it.
I'm planning on getting an ASUS P8P67 Deluxe board, and an Antec Nine Hundred Two case.

Yeah, the water cooling thing sounds a little too complicated, so I'm probably just going to stick with aircooling for now. Also, thanks for the MSI suggestion. I've been reading around about the card and it looks pretty nice. I also found out about the ASUS DirectCU II 580GTX card while reading up on that MSI one. They both seem to have nice stock coolers on them (especially that ASUS one, which takes up like 3 slots lol). That MSI has a nice factory OC on it too, as it almost rivals the EVGA HC 580GTX OC.

Do you think that the stock coolers on the MSI and ASUS cards would be good enough for being able to SLI them without the temps getting too high? Also, which one would you personally recommend? Like I said, I'm reading up on both of the cards now, and I'm finding it pretty hard to choose between the two.
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The stock coolers do a much better job at providing airflow when sandwiched together, versus aftermarket coolers (save for watercooling). Nvidia designed the cooler with the curved indentation at the end to help with airflow in those situations. Granted, it is always better to separate them if possible, but if your setup does not allow it, it will not be the end of the world.

Keep in mind, just about all the aftermarket coolers will need a decent amount of space between cards in order to achieve good temperatures as they tend to exhaust some of the heat within the case.
     
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Yes running 2 580 gtx with stock fans isn't a very good idea. Mine gets pretty hot after a few minutes so I had to make a custom fan profile using msi afterburner and the card still tops at around 70c while playing games like crysis. so right now I'm looking to water cool my card. Also my bad temp could be because of my setup which brings cold air into my radiator and throws it inside my pc raising my overall temperature.
Am I reading this right? You're complaining about 70C which is absolutely NOTHING in the GPU department, and then saying your airflow sucks? My gash... with bad airflow and a temp of 70C you should be happy.

OP, stock fans do just fine, but WC is optimal.
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