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So I'm attempting to future proof myself here, once again. I'm looking to build a rig, for gaming and video editing/producing. I have most of the parts figured out. However, I get suggestions from friends all the time, saying one motherboard is better than the other, wait for a new GPU to come out, etc. So I'm here to finalize my shopping cart. I'm looking to purchase this all sometime next week. So the details, I will attempt to overclock the CPU(since I hear it's pretty much one click OCing nowadays). If the GPU is the same way, I will attempt to OC that.

So what parts am I still looking for? A cooler. I don't know if I want to do water cooling or air cooling still. If I'm OCing, I should probably do water cooling, eh? Specially with a GPU. Which kit would you reccomend if it's a water cooling solution? What do I need for it(every part). I know nothing about water cooling. Price isn't my biggest concern.

The case, I'm more leaning to the HAF X. Mainly for the features. But if there is a case to better the cooling solution, I'm all ears.

A good SSD for the OS. Windows 7 Unlimited 64bit(of course).

No, I will not go SLI/XFire in the future. I MIGHT go from a 24" monitor, to a bit larger. Not likely though, but MIGHT.

Any better suggestions for the motherboard and the disc driver? And why you would suggest those over the one I already have selected? Same with the GPU, I'm considering an Nvidia card(mainly because I've had decent luck with them). But I can convert with ease. Not too thrilled about the 590 issues I've been seeing. Maybe buy a cheap decent card until something better?

The more I think about it, I want to believe air cooling is a fine solution(because of the HAF X). But once again, I'm open to all suggested solutions.

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/// The greener, the more confident I am with my choice.
//// Red means I'm completely unsure.

CPU
> Core i7-2600K (n330)(mc280)

COOLER
> Corsair CWCH70 (105)
> x2 LOGISYS Computer SF120 120mm Extreme Quiet Rubber Fan (25x2)

MOBO
> ASUS MAXIMUS IV EXTREME (REV 3.0) (365)

GPU (any better suggestion? I can wait a month or two..)
> MSI N580GTX Lightning (526)

PSU (its overkill, i know, better solution that is also future proofing?)
> Corsair AX1200 (280)

RAM
> Corsair CMZ16GX3M4A1600C9 (210)

SSD
> Corsair CSSD-P3128GB2-BRKT 128GB (320)

HD (anything for 1TB better?)
> x2 WD Caviar Black 2TB (160x2)

DISC
> LG ELECTRONICS WH12LS30 (110)

CASE (any other solutions that should be considered?)
> Cooler Master RC-942-KKN1 (180)
> NZXT PHAN-001WT (140)
> Antec DF-85 (160)
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so for cooler i you can probably get the h70 or the hyper 212+ depending on if you want water coolerd or not;

i don think you need to cool ram unless ocing really high (i.e. 2000mhz or higher, which you are so get it)

ssd: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820231414 (you could get two if you really need more space highly doubt it though of all my 5 years of install sh it on my pc i haven't reached the 40gb point)

sound card: one of these should be fine: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16829132006 or the
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16829132007
the main reason for a sound card to improve sound quaility, really not neccessary unless you want absolute crystal clear sound

for mobo i would get the asus maximus 4 extreme, or the gigabyte ga p67a ud7, if you are getting close to already spending 300 on a mobo

and for your ram, the mobo you suggested does not support quad channel only dual channel, so but some two of these rams: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...e=&srchInDesc= (these will work for the mobo you suggested and the ones i suggested) out of that list i like this one the best http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820231451

the case i personally love the phantom better than the hafX
Edited by BadAssClocker - 4/9/11 at 11:46am
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Just a few things you SHOULD change in my opinion.

RAM: Change it. Doesn't matter if you game, video edit, use 3D applications, 16GBs is unnecessary if you ask me. Go for 8-12GBs. I recommend the Ripjaws or Vengeance.

SSD: All depends on how much you're willing to pay. SSDs are very expensive and the price greatly increases based on how much data they can hold. I'd say never get an SSD that is less than 64GBs so you can safely install Windows and any other programs you feel important.

Sound Card: Not really necessary, to me at least. A sound card will only truly be a nice upgrade if you're a big audiophile or PC Gamer and you'd like to get crisper sounds. Another upside is you'll notice a slight performance increase since you won't be using onboard sound anymore. Either way, it's something that is NOT necessary unless you want it.

Basically, unless you have a quality speaker setup or headphones, you won't notice a difference whatsoever.

Case: I'd go with the Phantom or the Corsair 800D. Very large cases with tons of room.

Cooler: You're going to get ten different answers from ten different people, I say this all of the time because it's true. You can easily narrow it down though.

Air: Noctua DH-14

Fake watercooling: Corsair H60/70. 70 provides better cooling on load, however it's loud. H60 gives you about 2-4c less performance for quieter fans and a lower profile.

Actual watercooling: If you want to go actual watercooling, I recommend since you're a beginner you get the XSPC Rasa 750. Very nice cooling results for a very nice price.
Edited by pjBSOD - 4/9/11 at 11:41am
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Okay, so I'll ditch the sound card. I do have what I think is a nice speaker setup though, Altec Lansing Expressionist Ultra MX6021(2.1).

So for a SSD, how about this: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820167031

And for the RAM: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820231435
Any 12 GB set with the same specs? for the ASUS Maximus 4 Extreme Motherboard?

Any better suggestions? Also, I'm still in a pickle when it comes to cooling? I saw someone said I was going to OC the RAM, that is not true. Just the CPU, and maybe the GPU. I'm afraid to touch the RAM. So as far as cooling goes? Would it be greatly beneficial to go with the water cooling? What should I expect? Is it dangerous at all? What would happen to my case, where would the things need to go(on top, inside, etc). I would prefer things to be inside of the case, but can't win every battle. I do like quiet. But I think my machine is pretty loud and I somehow get some sleep, so it's not a huge deal. The performance and ease is though.
    
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SSD looks fine. If you're not going to OC the RAM, don't go with the ram you've just posted. Go for cheaper DDR3, 8GBs will be perfect.
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SSD looks fine. If you're not going to OC the RAM, don't go with the ram you've just posted. Go for cheaper DDR3, 8GBs will be perfect.
What about timings? specs? What should I go for then?
    
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http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...-313-_-Product

Or

8GB Vengeance kit.

Since you aren't going to be overclocking the RAM, timings don't really matter. Even if you are going to overclock the RAM, you can EASILY bring that RAM to 1866 with looser timings. The voltage on both of those models are really nice. The Vengeance kit has less voltage then the Dominators.
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Why is RAM so confusing? lol. So the lower the voltage, the better? What is the difference between the voltage and timings? I trust you, of course. I just want a little knowledge behind my computer parts Also I like the Corsair H60 so far. Almost as good as the H70 but noticeably quieter? Yes please! What about for my GPU? Is there a way to add that as well to the cooling mix of an H60 or would stock be fine? I don't even know what the H60 really is, I just saw a bunch of charts and it seems great.
    
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The lower the voltage the better if you aren't planning on overclocking your RAM. The Vengeance 8GB kit have the same timings as the Dominator kit settings, but at a much lower voltage. Dominators run at 1.65v stock, while the Vengeance kit runs at 1.50v stock. The reason Dominators are always recommended for overclocking is because they come at a higher stock voltage, leaving your with more headroom to overclock your RAMs voltage.

And yes, the H60 and H70 are really great coolers for their price. I own the H70. The H60 is the same thing as the H70 just noticeably quieter for a little bit less cooling performance. It's only a CPU cooler, it's not like an actual watercooling kit. You attach the pump the the CPU like you would any other normal heatsink, attach the Rad to the back fan slot and then hook up your two fans to the Rad.

GPU cooling is definitely not my field. All I know is unless you're going to be over-volting your card to levels that the stock air cooler can't cool, that's when you'll want to go custom water cooling for your GPU/s.
Edited by pjBSOD - 4/9/11 at 3:20pm
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I wouldn't bother with water cooling the GPU. I would go for an EVGA GPU and then use the EVGA Precision Overclocking software. It's amazing how much more performance you can get out of that, and even more if you don't mind a few artifacts here and there. Plus EVGA is a solid brand and they have great customer support.

For cooling I would go with an aftermarket heatsink on the CPU as air cooling is cheaper than water cooling. But if you know what you are doing, go for water cooling. Or get something like the Corsair H50 which is self enclosed water cooling and the easiest to install.
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