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i was wondering why my ssd was 107GB when i install windows, should it be 115GB usable ? or thats ok ?
other thing should i connect my SSD on sata II or sata III port on motherboard ? ( because of the 275mb write/read )
if i format and reinstall OS, it will decrease its lifetime ?

OCZ Agility II 120GB 3,5" ( its 32 nm )
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Originally Posted by nahuel222;13062470 
i was wondering why my ssd was 107GB when i install windows, should it be 115GB usable ? or thats ok ?
other thing should i connect my SSD on sata II or sata III port on motherboard ? ( because of the 275mb write/read )
if i format and reinstall OS, it will decrease its lifetime ?

OCZ Agility II 120GB 3,5" ( its 32 nm )

The drive is a SATAII drive, so you can connect it to either a SATA II or SATA III connection. SATAIII is backward compatable with SATA II devices. There is no additional speed benefit to connecting a SATAII device to a SATA III connection, as the SATAII device's connection is still only capable of a maximum of 300 MB/sec.

But... By the fact that your drive formatted to 107GB, I would go to the OCZ support website, and find the tool that checks your NAND memory. You may have gotten one of the drives that was claimed to be 34nm, but was actually 25nm.

If the latter, some of these drives have a problem that eventually develops with halved read/write speeds. Some time ago, OCZ aknowledged the problem, and was providing an exchange program for the 25nm SSDs.
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Originally Posted by xandypx;13062763 
The drive is a SATAII drive, so you can connect it to either a SATA II or SATA III connection. SATAIII is backward compatable with SATA II devices. There is no additional speed benefit to connecting a SATAII device to a SATA III connection, as the SATAII device's connection is still only capable of a maximum of 300 MB/sec.

But... By the fact that your drive formatted to 107GB, I would go to the OCZ support website, and find the tool that checks your NAND memory. You may have gotten one of the drives that was claimed to be 34nm, but was actually 25nm.

If the latter, some of these drives have a problem that eventually develops with halved read/write speeds. Some time ago, OCZ aknowledged the problem, and was providing an exchange program for the 25nm SSDs.

when i buy it i told the seller to find me one 32nm ssd, when he bring it to me he said that to be sure it was a 32nm he caught a 3,5" ssd, cause for now he never say a 25nm ssd 3,5"...
which tool are u saying? the ocz tool which can upgrade firmware, or there's another tool for that ?
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OK I went to the product page at the OCZ website for the Agility 2 3.5".

Here's what it says:
*120GB IDEMA capacity is 115GB
http://www.ocztechnology.com/ocz-agility-2-sata-ii-3-5-ssd.html

So a formatted capacity of 107GB sounds about right.

Don't worry about reformatting, 34nm and 32nm flash will last longer than you'll have that drive (even 25nm will last long). In addition the drive is over-provisioned which helps maintain performance and also has extra flash on board just in case some of it starts going bad.
Edited by coelacanth - 4/9/11 at 1:22pm
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post #5 of 11
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OK I went to the product page at the OCZ website for the Agility 2 3.5".

Here's what it says:
*120GB IDEMA capacity is 115GB
http://www.ocztechnology.com/ocz-agility-2-sata-ii-3-5-ssd.html

So a formatted capacity of 107GB sounds about right.

Don't worry about reformatting, 34nm and 32nm flash will last longer than you'll have that drive (even 25nm will last long). In addition the drive is over-provisioned which helps maintain performance and also has extra flash on board just in case some of it starts going bad.

yeap i was searching too, so my ssd is 25nm, not 32nm, all 32nm has 111.x GB usable with the OS on it.. with 25nm u see 115GB and 107GB usable
and what u say about mantaining performance thats true !
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Originally Posted by nahuel222;13063744 
yeap i was searching too, so my ssd is 25nm, not 32nm, all 32nm has 111.x GB usable with the OS on it.. with 25nm u see 115GB and 107GB usable
and what u say about mantaining performance thats true !
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Do you have the part number handy from your SSD?

OCZ said that all the 25nm drives would have an extra "E" in the part number. Though there were some 25nm drives sold that didn't have the updated part number.

Looking at the current Agility 2 3.5" 120GB drives it looks like they are not using 25nm flash unless OCZ only denoted the use of 25nm flash on Vertex 2 & 3 drives? headscratch.gif
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where could it be the part number ??
i dont want to open the case lol, i have the box here with me with a serial number, a pin

in the manual it says " ISF-SSD3-001 "
PN: OCZSSD3-2AGT120G
Edited by nahuel222 - 4/9/11 at 3:53pm
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post #8 of 11
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Originally Posted by nahuel222;13065152 
where could it be the part number ??
i dont want to open the case lol, i have the box here with me with a serial number, a pin

in the manual it says " ISF-SSD3-001 "
PN: OCZSSD3-2AGT120G

Download and run this tool. (get version 2.33 or higher) It will identify the NAND on your drive, but I am almost certain it is 25nm, due to the reduced capacity.

OCZ Toolbox
Edited by xandypx - 4/9/11 at 5:17pm
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post #9 of 11
Quote:
Originally Posted by nahuel222;13065152 
where could it be the part number ??
i dont want to open the case lol, i have the box here with me with a serial number, a pin

in the manual it says " ISF-SSD3-001 "
PN: OCZSSD3-2AGT120G

Yea the PN is what I was after.

OCZ started putting an "E" in the part numbers of the drives using 25nm flash.

For instance, with the Agility 2 2.5" 120GB the part number on the OCZ website is:
120GB - OCZSSD2-2AGTE120G
That E denotes the use of 25nm flash.

Your 3.5" drive's part number doesn't have an "E" in it, so I think it might have either 32 or 34nm flash on board.

Edit: xandypx, good idea. I don't have OCZ SSDs so I didn't know about that tool. Will it work with non-OCZ SSDs?
Edited by coelacanth - 4/9/11 at 5:18pm
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Yea the PN is what I was after.

OCZ started putting an "E" in the part numbers of the drives using 25nm flash.

For instance, with the Agility 2 2.5" 120GB the part number on the OCZ website is:
120GB - OCZSSD2-2AGTE120G
That E denotes the use of 25nm flash.

Your 3.5" drive's part number doesn't have an "E" in it, so I think it might have either 32 or 34nm flash on board.

Edit: xandypx, good idea. I don't have OCZ SSDs so I didn't know about that tool. Will it work with non-OCZ SSDs?

It is supposed to work on any SSD with a sandforce controller, except there are certain problems with the sandforce 1500.
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