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I'm posting this for anyone considering this case, so that they may ask questions or learn from some of the issues I've encountered.

Planned build:
RV03
Antec HCP-1200 (see details below) -> had to remove a twist-tie to get the case power extension to reach
Gigabyte Sniper motherboard
980-X -> changed to 990X
12GB Kingston RAM -> changed to 3x4GB G.Skill modules
2 x SATA3 Intel SSDs (510s)
3 x SATA2 Intel SSDs (X-25M G2)
1 x WD Caviar Black HD -> decided against this, I have enough storage on the SSDs
3 x Nvidia 580 GTX

Cooling:
RV03 2 x 180mm bottom intake fans
Replace default top intake w/ Noiseblocker M-12PS 120mm
2 x 120mm M-12PS on front intake
1 x 120mm M-12PS on rear intake
1 x 120mm M-12P on Tuniq Tower 120 Extreme CPU heatsink
1 x 120mm on right panel for hard drive and underside of MB cooling -> Decided against fan, see HDD section for details

Wide / Top pics of case:

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Wide shots, showing the entirety of the case. The top cover and side panels are removed.


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Top of the case, with cover removed, showing the recessed area where your MB I/O cables will come out. They will lead out through the 'handle' pictured, which is toward the rear of the case. The manual notes that some VGA adapters are not ideal to use here; since the cables have to bend and go towards the back of the case some adapters might not fit very well.

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Front Panel I/O

Showing the top/front panel I/O, with lid open to show the ports. These are USB 3.0, with 'external' cables leading out the back. I tucked these in through the rubber grommets on top, and am connecting them to my motherboard using Gigabyte's internal USB 3.0 header. I'll route this all behind the tray.

The front panel audio jacks require a large amount of force for jackst to be detected; this was reported by other users, as well, and the issue may be systemic. The jacks reportedly get easier to detect as you use them more. I attempted to take this front panel apart to see if I could adjust the jacks but could not see an easy way to do this.

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Showing the USB 3.0 cables going into the case. Also pictured are the 180mm fan controls, one per fan; you can leave them set to 'high' and then control the fans using a fan controller or MB fan header. The fans use 3-pin type fan connectors. I'll be using a Y-cable and control them both from one fan header on the motherboard.

You can remove the gold trim, by the way, which comes off in strips and is not painted on.

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Straight-on shot of the top of the case.

PSU Selection

One of the first issues I encountered with this board was with my choice of PSU - the Antec HCP-1200. This PSU has received outstanding reviews, and at first glance does not work with the RV03.

The manual is clear that the PSU max depth is 180mm, but what is NOT mentioned is that if the power input socket on the PSU is facing flat side up you must remove a twist-tie from inside the case in order to give you enough length of the angled PSU power extension to properly fit.

At least one user reported success in mounting a 200mm long Corsair AX1200 by removing the cable wrap around the cabling to allow the cables to make a sharper bend coming out of the PSU.

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The cable length is too short! In this case, remove the twist-tie from inside the case.

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Most PSUs will fit like this, without having to remove the inner twist-tie.

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This shows the receptacle and twist-tie that must be removed so that the power extension can reach certain PSU sockets.


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The Antec HCP-1200 installed, after removing the twist-tie, which allowed the case's angled power extension to loop and reach the PSU's connection. The side panel goes on fine; there is a small gap between the panel and the PSU/MB compartments to allow this.

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PSU Considerations:
  • This case only allows your PSU to be installed in one orientation, so keep that in mind in choosing a PSU.
  • This case is designed for PSUs with intake fans sucking air in from below. There is a filter below the PSU compartment to minimize foreign matter in the intake. A PSU with a 'side-sucking' fan would also work, but it's intake wouldn't be filtered (the HCP-1200 I am using is such an example.)
  • If your PSU must be installed in such a way that its intake fan is trying to take air from above the PSU it will not get any air. However, if you remove the 5.25" bay directly above the PSU you can get the PSU air from the front.
  • Max depth is 180mm, unless you want to try removing cable sleeving and hope the cables will bend enough to fit into your case.
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CPU Backplate / Heatsink installation
Plenty of room to work in the back, on the underside of the motherboard, once the board is installed.

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Mounting the Tuniq Tower Extreme 120 was pretty straightfoward. The CPU fan(s) should be mounted in such a way so that air is blowing from bottom to top, working with the overall case airflow provided by the 180mm intake fans at the bottom.

Integrated H20 systems can mount their rad/fan in place of the stock exhaust fan at top. It doesn't seem to me that you could put it on the front fan brackets where the 5.25" bays are, but Silverstone suggests this as the recommended method, since you can intake cool air from the front and have it exhausted up through the top. I think YMMV depending on the size of the motherboard components near the CPU socket.

Cooling / Front Drive Bays
This case has 7 x 5.25" drive bays in front. The lower six are in two groups of three, and each group of three has two 120mm fan brackets, allowing up to four 120mm fans to be mounted in front. I mounted an optical drive in the top and two 120mm fans towards the back of the case. Silverstone recommends fans be mounted towards the motherboard to help muffle their noise.

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One thing to note: the 5.25" drive brackets must remain in place if you want to use the front fan brackets, which are attached to the 5.25" drive trays. However, the rear brackets can be screwed into the chassis, so you have the option of removing the 5.25" drive trays if you only need the rear fan brackets.

The lower fan brackets form part of the PSU compartment, and look like they'll help isolate PSU heat from the rest of the case.

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You can remove any fan brackets you aren't using, if you like.

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I also installed a rear intake fan, which will use a magnetic fan filter on the exterior. Installing a fan here prevents use of the eighth expansion slot on the case, so this won't be an option (at all, even with thin fans) if you want to make use of the eighth slot.

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The rear 120mm fan, mounted as intake.


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Right-side panel HDD Tray

The right-side panel has a spot for a 120mm fan for intake into the HDD tray located on the underside of the motherboard. This tray has 4 x 3.5" HDD brackets, and one 2.5" dual-drive bracket, located in the center (see above.) Two of the 3.5" HDD brackets are mounted 'upside down', shown lower left and upper right, as pictured above.

The right side brackets have enough room to route cables beneath them.

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One of the four 3.5" drive brackets, removed from the right side HDD tray. Rubber grommets minimize vibration and noise. HDDs are mounted by screwing them onto the bracket through these grommets.

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The 2.5" dual-drive bracket can be mounted in one of the 3.5" HDD brackets. Additional brackets can be ordered from Silverstone (part # SDP08.)

One oddity about the included bracket and screws that come with the case: if you use the included case screws for the 2.5" dual-drive bracket you won't be able to use them on the 'lower' drive. You can see pictured here how the heads of the screws are too large to screw in correctly. The optional SDP08 does come with correct-sized screws. Silverstone should have caught this in testing.

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Showing the 2.5" drives installed using screws from the SDP08, which have smaller heads on the screws allowing for a correct installation.

The case directions recommend alternating the two drives, so that they face opposite directions; I fail to see how this is helpful in anyway. The directions that come with the SDP08 show both drives mounted facing the same direction, and that seemed to make a lot more sense. Mounting it this way ended up being much easier for routing of power cables.

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You can completely remove any brackets you don't use. I decided to remove the 2.5" dual-drive bracket and install it into one of the 3.5" HDD brackets, and then install two more 2.5" dual-drive brackets into two other 3.5" HDD brackets, leaving me one 3.5" bracket open for the one conventional HDD I am installing. This ended up giving me space for 1 x 3.5" HDD and six 2.5" HDDs.

Decided to completely remove the conventional drive; see the PSU cabling section below for details.

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Room for routing cables behind these drive brackets. The large cable connector thingy is the Gigabyte USB 3.0 internal header connector, connected to the case's two USB 3.0 cables, routed behind the MB tray.



With the center 2.5" dual-drive bracket removed the 180mm intake fan can more readily blow air into this HDD tray. The foward 180mm fan is offset slightly just for this purpose. I rerouted the 180mm fan cabling, which came with its cabling blocking much of the air into the HDD tray, and now it should have a clear route to cool the HDD tray and underside of the motherboard.

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Since I'm using mostly SSDs and I was able to get a decent channel for airflow from the 180mm fan I decided to not mount a 120mm fan on the right panel. I don't really like panel-mounted fans, anyway, it makes taking the panel off a mild annoyance.

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Cable Routing
There is plenty of space to route PCIE power, MB power, and SATA cables behind the tray here once everything is setup.

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Showing the motherboard with SATA and most fan cables connected and routed behind motherboard tray.

You'll need at least a 24" SATA cable to reach an optical drive mounted in the top 5.25" bay, by the way. The rest of the drives mounted on the right panel can be reached with shorter cables.

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PSU Cabling Issues:

Now that I've managed to get the Antec PSU installed, I'm finding that I have limited space to put excess cable without blocking airflow to either this entire tray (blocking the edge of the 180mm fan that is supposed to cool this area) or blocking the side intake for the PSU itself. What I have done is to remove the conventional drive, move the lower left set of SSDs up, and then I used the empty 3.5" bracket to bundle excess PSU cabling.

The result is much neater appearance that helps preserve airflow behind the motherboard tray and to this PSU. If you have a bottom-intake fan on your PSU you would be able to use the space 'behind' the PSU to store excess cables.

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Area behind the PSU where the PSU will intake air, cleared of cables.

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GPUs and 90 degree cases
3 x 580 GTX GPUs installed. I used reference 580s because their cooling works well with the RV03's cooling methodology; heat flows from the 'bottom' of the card, as installed, out the top. Most (well, all that I found, actually) non-reference cards blow their hot air all over the place with no clear channeled exhaust. This doesn't mean you can't use these cards with the RV03 or other 90 degree cases, just that they won't benefit as much from the unique cooling potential of the RV03. AMD cards are similar; their reference design will work well, but you may want to examine non-reference designs as a consideration before buying. If you are going to be liquid cooling your GPUs then this is not going to be a concern for you.

Juano, a user on this board, suggested I link this page from Silverstone regarding these types of cases and different cooling options, which may be helpful for those looking at non-reference coolers for GPUs.

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With side cover on.

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Whole-case shot, with all covers on.

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Magnetic filters on the bottom; on the right you can see where you'll plug your PSU into the wall.

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The bottom-facing power receptacle. It is recessed about 2-3 inches into the case bottom, which is itself a couple of inches off of the floor.

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These side grilles on both right and left side panels of the RV03 prevent you from laying it flat with the side panel on. Something to keep in mind.

Thoughts so far

I like this case. My Tri-SLI system is much quieter than I expected. The 180mm fans are noticeable on high speeds, but I'm using a fan header and Speedfan to control their speeds automatically. Temps are reasonable, allowing all of my fans to run at low most of the time, but your YMMV based on your own choice of components and overclocking.

The extra front and rear intake fans do not appear to add a substantial amount of cooling. I think a side intake fan may be useful for those with conventional hard drives and concerns about HDD temps, but I would suggest trying it first without such a fan to see what your temps are like. Good cable management in the right side panel will help your temps, obviously.

Thanks to Juano, nawon72, and many other users on this and other forums for their input.

'Real' Reviews:
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Edited by Balthazor - 6/9/11 at 10:02am
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thanks for the info. I was definitely considering this case at one point in my life.

and good god that was one behemoth build eek.gif
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The Strider Gold 1200 has that angled connector at the rear of the PSU? Would you happen to know any 100W or 850W models PSU's with this "angled" connector for the rear of the PSU?

Could you take more images of the top panel area of the case and just a wide full case shot please? I really want to buy this case! But I'm hoping they make one in a different colour bezel...the gold colour really put me off.

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The Strider Gold 1200 has that angled connector at the rear of the PSU? Would you happen to know any 100W or 850W models PSU's with this "angled" connector for the rear of the PSU?

The angled connector comes with the case; it is a short angled power cable extension, leading to a hidden receptacle underneath the case where you plug in your power.

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This shows a picture, underneath, where the power extension connects to a receptacle beneath the case.

The issue is the orientation of the power input socket on your PSU relative to the orientation of the plug on this angled power extension.
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post #5 of 425
It's not the PSU that has the issue, it's the case. With the PSU where it is, you need one that allows for the little extension cable built into the case to plug in. Turns out the Antec HCP1200 just had the power socket in the wrong place for the case wiring is all.
There is a second AC power connector on the case which is where you actually plug it in to the wall, and a cable runs from there to the PSU mount.
    
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Could you take more images of the top panel area of the case and just a wide full case shot please? I really want to buy this case!

I added some in the original post.
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Did you get this from Sundialmicro?

This case looks awesome.
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Keep the pictures coming! Borrow your wife's camera!
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I still think that the RV03 doesn't live up to the RV02, it looks somewhat sloppy in comparison, but it does have an advantage on the other two Raven as it isn't nearly as big. I believe the Raven should have stayed a full tower, maybe they could have made it like RV02-S for small or something.
    
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Did you get this from Sundialmicro?

This case looks awesome.

Yes.
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