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Your computer is so beast! And the new pictures look great. But if size didn't matter, the FT02 or RV02 would be a better choice for your build. They beat the RV03 in temps by 5-7*C using minimum fan speed, and make less noise. And right now the RV02 is the same price(after MIR) as the RV03.

Here is some important info that should be integrated into the OP. It's from the Bit-Tech review.
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Building a system in the RV03 proved tricky at first, as the special right-angled PSU cable that’s hard-wired into the case wouldn’t reach our PSU. This is a pre-production issue, and SilverStone has confirmed that the second production run – due to start in May – will use a longer cable.

SilverStone also explained that the issue was caused by the way in which certain PSU manufacturers, such as Seasonic (which makes PSUs for many other companies), mount the power socket. We tackled the problem by snipping a cable tie that held the pass-through power cable to the frame of the case. This is there to stop the cable's output-socket-end pulling on the soldered joints between the wire and the power input socket, so while removing it enabled us to connect our PSU, you don't want to remove it unnecessarily.
Equally, you could buy a short extender cable if you’re worried about breaking the captive one, as there’s plenty of room to stow the extra cable.
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I don't understand how that's news to you, you've been here throughout the entire time when we figured out the PSU issue.

As for your new found belief that the RV03 is an inferior cooler, I don't know what to tell you other than I am also very happy with it's cooling performance, and that there is nothing that should make the RV03 a bad case for air cooling. Even further than that there is nothing in it's design that makes it anything short of an excellent air cooling case. Most of the other high end cases on the market have a big design flaw of some sort, either they use a brute force airflow design (rather than clean airflow through the whole case they just stick multiple fans within 2 inches of anything that is hot) or they are designed so they are effective at cooling a single GPU but will starve all the GPUs when more than one is used. Anyway, it's too bad that you are swayed from being happy about your case to unhappy based on a review but I wouldn't be so quick to write off the RV03.

You also were around when I posted this the first time. I'm sure you've also seen the videos straight from Silverstone's product manager saying the RV03 is very close in cooling performance to the RV02.



At this point seeing the careful thought and many design hours Silverstone have put into airflow I would trust their word over Bit-tech's test buy a wide margin. You're of course free to make your own decision but I wouldn't be so quick to be disappointed in your case.
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I don't understand how that's news to you, you've been here throughout the entire time when we figured out the PSU issue.
This is the part i didnt know about:
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This is a pre-production issue, and SilverStone has confirmed that the second production run – due to start in May – will use a longer cable.

We tackled the problem by snipping a cable tie that held the pass-through power cable to the frame of the case. This is there to stop the cable's output-socket-end pulling on the soldered joints between the wire and the power input socket, so while removing it enabled us to connect our PSU, you don't want to remove it unnecessarily.
Does this mean i have a pre-production case?

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As for your new found belief that the RV03 is an inferior cooler, I don't know what to tell you other than I am also very happy with it's cooling performance, and that there is nothing that should make the RV03 a bad case for air cooling.
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At this point seeing the careful thought and many design hours Silverstone have put into airflow I would trust their word over Bit-tech's test buy a wide margin. You're of course free to make your own decision but I wouldn't be so quick to be disappointed in your case.
I remembered that graph when i was looking at the results Bit-Tech had. And i was, and still am puzzled by the what they got. They did say the RV03 is still a great case, and it scored 83%. So I dont hate it, but im not fond of it either. It could have been worse though. I was actually thinking of getting a HAF 912/922, and if didnt see the link to the RV03 then i would have bought it. And the one thing about this case that nobody can change my mind about is the amount of plastic. I also agree with Bit-Tech that the plastic feels cheap.
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Annoyingly, though, the type of plastic used in the exterior portions of the case felt cheaper and less solid than the plastic used on the RV02.
I wish SilverStone had an all aluminum or steel version of this case. Even if it cost $200 i would be much happier. I really hate the plastic...
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About the PSU cable, I made sure to look as after I undid the twist tie and there was no stress at all being placed on the actual plug itself. There was ample room on the cord, and it wasn't moving easily at all, it has quite a bit of friction on where the cord exits it's hidden so I don't expect it to move and I have no worries about it wearing because of me removing the twist tie.

As for the plastic I had been meaning to post my impressions on it and I still will further in the future in more detail but what I will say now is that the plastic exterior I have no problem with at all, doesn't look or feel bad in my opinion and I certainly didn't want a $200 case. I do believe that two areas of the inter plastics do feel cheap/fragile though, and those are the tool-less 5.25" drive mounts, and the fan mounts where they attach to the 3.5" bay adapters. Other than those I have no issues with the amount or feel of the plastic.
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As a case owner for a while now, I'm not sure how a review by a third party could influence my opinion one way or another, unless they told me the case was covered by asbestos or something.

I agree that the front-bay fan mounts and the 'tool-less' 5.25" drives are a bit cheap feeling.
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I honestly dont know what to think about this case, I think the RV02/FT02 having the motherboard mounted on the left was better. I like the way the RV03 moved the power supply but hate the 180mm limitation (which is really the only PSU limitation). I definitely do not like the way the HDD's are mounted in the RV03, versus the other RV02E/FT02/RV01. But I think what will make me und up grabbing a RV02 is rear fan and side fan openings, they release all of the positive pressure that the Stack Effect is built on and I see this as a major downfall (cuz Im not gonna put 4 extra fans in my case).

IDK, that just my $0.02
    
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At least in my build, the extra fans aren't contributing much to temps. I'm removing them completely next time I take the system apart, and for now they are disconnected, to reduce noise.

In fact I may end up blocking up the side and rear grilles with acoustic foam to minimize noise further, although it really isn't that noticeable.

The hard drives on the back are a little bit of a pain to install but the cables are easy to run. Definitely not a case to get if you are prone to frequent hard drive swaps.
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Balthazor, I'm doing the same thing with sound deadening that you mentioned (I think you might even be biting my style yo!) I'm ordering this acoustic foam today and will let you know how it goes when I get it installed next week. My build is done but I've just been holding off on pictures since I knew the sound deadening would be happening soon.
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At least in my build, the extra fans aren't contributing much to temps. I'm removing them completely next time I take the system apart, and for now they are disconnected, to reduce noise.

In fact I may end up blocking up the side and rear grilles with acoustic foam to minimize noise further, although it really isn't that noticeable.

The hard drives on the back are a little bit of a pain to install but the cables are easy to run. Definitely not a case to get if you are prone to frequent hard drive swaps.
Could you do a quick test to see how the extra fans affect GPU, CPU, and chipset temps?

For CPU i would say Prime95 small FFTs, and record temps with realtemp.
For GPU use FurMark, or if your against using it try another stress test that is continuous. You can record the temp by locking the fan speed at say 40%, and see how hot it gets using Afterburner.
The chipset temp isnt that important, so only monitor if you can. But i dont think it will change much, since mine is always 1-3*C over ambient.
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