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post #21 of 41
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Originally Posted by reflex99 View Post
Ok, here is my speel:

I am a believer that MSI 4+1 design is PERFeCTLY fine for X4 or lower processors. BUT, an x6 is instant trouble.

As long as you aren't going crazy with the volts, the MSI motherboard should be fine.

My evidence to support this:

1. only 1 failure has ever been confirmed on an X4 or lower

2. Many boards do not support X6 processors, but they do support 140w X4. This would lead me to believe that the X6's draw power differently. In their rush to be in with the 890 Chipset, MSI didn't redesign their VRM's for the X6, and are still using the older VRM's made for X4.

TL;DR: don't use X6 in the 890GXM-G65, and you should be fine

Thanks, glad to have some back up. It's good to know someone else noticed the same.
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post #22 of 41
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That Jetway board is the one that failed on me. For some reason they took it off Newegg for a short while and completely removed the feedback. There was a fair amount of negative feedback on that board.
post #23 of 41
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Originally Posted by Havokr505 View Post
yea like I did

http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/26...-mosfet-failed
GD-70 dying on a x4 x) lawl. so u want a mATX motherboard with multiple PIC-e x16 slots huh?...
1 or 2 incidents is well within normal failure rates for ANY manufacturer even with a 4 core..
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post #24 of 41
finnaly another failure on that thing.

Still really wouldn't call that a trend. (plus he was using freaikin AMDOD lol)

out of the options availible, the GXM is the best of them.

for every failure, there is a possible success:
http://hwbot.org/community/submissio..._be_7040.7_mhz

(there are also lots more insane overclocks on the 790/890Fx GD70, but almost all are on quads, which futher supports my theory
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post #25 of 41
I dunno i havent seen very many Asus Boards Failing due to mosfet kerploding. but maybe thats just me. the list that was made from Cases on this website and from HardOC were moistly MSI, a few ECS and Like one Gigabyte....
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post #26 of 41
yes, they are mostly MSI, but almost all of the 4+1 failures are from x6's. The 890/790 GD70's are new boards, with old VRM design, which i will agree, is flawed for use with X6, and MSI should not support using x6 processors with these boards. (similar to how x6 will not work in my destroyer because the VRM's cannot handle it)

ASUS has some sort of OCP that downclocks the proc/shuts off windows if the mosfets get to a critical level.
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post #27 of 41
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And seeing as I'm not overclocking....
post #28 of 41
even less chance of something going wrong.

MSI support is very good, so even if the board were to die, they would more than likely RMA it without hassle
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post #29 of 41
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If it does die, hopefully they wont ask me to pay for a new one. I can understand shipping... but apparently Jetway doesn't understand warranties.
post #30 of 41
I personally cut the line on boards not featuring DrMOS (which are even then not very safe above 1.5V OC), the majority of those boards with the NIKOS MOSFETs I can't consider 125W ready no matter what
Remember MSI boards also lack OCP a.k.a. VRM anti-fail
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