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post #31 of 41
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Again, wont be overclocking.
post #32 of 41
MSI doesn't even make you explain to them why you are RMAing

They are just like

-fill out this form
-select reason from dropdown box
-here's your RMA number

I sent them 2 perfectly functioning GTX470s, and got 2 BRAND NEW cards back, complete with boxes accessories, free games, and the like.
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Originally Posted by Lucky 13 SpeedShop View Post
Pushing over 1.55V on a 125W processor [stock] on air cooling on a board known for 125W VRM failures - now that is really, really stupid (thank heavens this isn't your 24/7 voltage as you stated)

Observations noted by OCN members like dromihetes show that MSI board MOSFETs actually degrade over time in look & function. His failed after 11 months... he noticed that progressively over time the area around the MOSFETs looked quite different (he described it as "watery")... and then the board failed on him; it was an 870A board using NIKOS MOSFETs - this uses the same kind of NIKOS MOSFETs, just heatsinked, but from what I've seen the heatsinks really don't help at all and the VRMs can blow anyway.

reflex's judgments seem more based on the 790FX-GD70 which are an entirely different (DrMOS) design that is an improvement over NIKOS MOSFETs. It is indeed usual that you won't find as much x4 failures on that as you do x6 failures. But boards of this design and similar with NIKOS 3-transistor MOSFETs are the ones that usually take the blow - even on processors of 125W running at stock speed.

If the mobo dies/blows, there is a chance that it takes your PSU with it which is even more likely if you don't have a good quality unit. Through the PSU other units may go out. There have also been a few odd cases where the CPU or RAM were taken out with the VRMs.
Edited by xd_1771 - 4/9/11 at 9:53pm
post #34 of 41
point is though, given the options (of which there are none), the GXM is the best.

And an x4 at stock is probably not going to be an issue.
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post #35 of 41
I see. I've found that there can be better board options at that price range though.... is MSI really the easiest option for RMA/warranty?
post #36 of 41
MSI has been really lax with both of my RMA's

Most people seem to have a good experience. Occasionally, however, there are some fails.

His requirements are:

uATX
2 PCIe slots that are spaced apart
AMD
less than $150 usd


I would say that the DFI-M3Rwhatever (the uATX one) would be the best, but it is really hard to find.
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post #37 of 41
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It's not like it matters right now. I ordered the part a little bit ago. If the board lasts me only 11 months, that's better then the last board which only lasted 20some days.

And YET AGAIN, I wont be overclocking.
post #38 of 41
I use that MSI mobo and x4 955 at stock speed(my HTPC machine). No issues...yet.
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post #39 of 41
Unlike most, when I push that kind of voltage & stress through it. It's on a tech station with the addition of a 88 cfm Yate Loon fan blowing directly on the vrm heatsink. With ambient temps at 20-23C courtesy of a supplemental A/C in my computer room. I do take precautions, and I'm not stupid about it.

That particular setting I forgot to drop back to normal. But as noted, I don't run that voltage, nor anywhere near it daily. That was only for running Super Pi, and 3DMark11.
Edited by Lucky 13 SpeedShop - 4/9/11 at 10:39pm
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post #40 of 41
I don't really think there are any mATX boards with 2 PCI-E slots spaced far apart
If using dual slot cards, one is definitely not going to get air, no matter which way you go

BenRK as long as you make sure the MOSFET heatsink is on tight and you are using the stock cooler or any cooler blowing down onto the mobo (but DO NOT deviate from this) you should be fine
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