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From what I have heard, the general consensus is that MX-Blacks are the choice of gamers, particularly FPS gamers. If you can save a little more than $100 then your options will greatly increase; there are a lot of really nice boards in the $100-$150 range.
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I'd rather you get Cherry MX Blues rather than the MX Blacks that people are talking about.
A friend of mine has a Cherry MX Black keyboard and he said it absolutely killed his fingers like no other. Blues are meant for comfort, and with SCII, you might want as much comfort you can get due to the fact that you are spamming hotkeys like no other.

Look into Cherry Brown or Cherry Blue switches. Those seem about right for you unless you don't mind killing your fingers. xD
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When your board has a card slider and odd layout, I'd say it's weird. Also this just proves my point that it's just preference. I like them all, and you seem to not. Nothing is fact here, it's what you like, and what you don't.

One can use a truck to do some shopping, it's its own respectable preference.
But if someone asks me I reply that a truck is more suited to do other things, and I explain why.

I like the blues, they are very good for typing, but I cant suggest them for heavy gaming, because the hysteresis.

Which is a fact, not an opinion.
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I'd rather you get Cherry MX Blues rather than the MX Blacks that people are talking about.
A friend of mine has a Cherry MX Black keyboard and he said it absolutely killed his fingers like no other. Blues are meant for comfort, and with SCII, you might want as much comfort you can get due to the fact that you are spamming hotkeys like no other.

Look into Cherry Brown or Cherry Blue switches. Those seem about right for you unless you don't mind killing your fingers. xD
The point of actuation is at most a 10g difference, so no offense, but your friend may need to do some finger exercises or something, lol... All joking aside, it is a matter of personal preference... just know that with MX-Blues the release point is actually above the actuation point, causing double-tapping issues... the Blacks don't have that issue. If you are going to be doing extensive typing I would say go Blue, it is the best of both worlds... but any serious gamer should consider Blacks.
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One can use a truck to do some shopping, it's its own respectable preference.
But if someone asks me I reply that a truck is more suited to do other things, and I explain why.

I like the blues, they are very good for typing, but I cant suggest them for heavy gaming, because the hysteresis.

Which is a fact, not an opinion.
The hysteresis is a fact, but that being a factor in whether or not it's good for gaming is opinion. The whole blue vs black thing is stupid, and instead of anyone actually trying it, they just repeat each other. It's so hard to not consistently fully depress keys that the whole hysteresis argument is dumb. Even if you can, just don't? Not fully depressing the keys isn't going to make you better at gaming. Blues are just like browns, but they make a clicky noise. Browns are just like blacks but the have a bump and need less force to press. These differences are noticeable, but do not in anyway make it so you can't type or game effectively. The difference in your typing or gaming will be very minimal with any of the switches. Some people will just like some more than others. Just like I prefer cotton shirts over polyester.
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The point of actuation is at most a 10g difference, so no offense, but your friend may need to do some finger exercises or something, lol... All joking aside, it is a matter of personal preference... just know that with MX-Blues the release point is actually above the actuation point, causing double-tapping issues... the Blacks don't have that issue. If you are going to be doing extensive typing I would say go Blue, it is the best of both worlds... but any serious gamer should consider Blacks.
I guess that is true, but I asked him how it was, he said it didn't hurt much. Mechanicals just need a bit of getting used to I guess.
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The hysteresis is a fact, but that being a factor in whether or not it's good for gaming is opinion.

I widely shared opinion, i have to add.

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The whole blue vs black thing is stupid, and instead of anyone actually trying it, they just repeat each other.
There's noting stupid in trying to get the best from a 100+ $ object.

If you want to play a game in a suboptimal way the world is plenty of cheap keyboards, there's no need to buy a mech keyboard.
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Blues are just like browns, but they make a clicky noise.
I suppose you are speaking about something you never tried, it's the only way to explain what you are saying.

Even if you haven't a brown and blue keyboards side by side, like me, just a quick look to the FAQs on this room should be enough to understand that the click is not the main difference.

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Just like I prefer cotton shirts over polyester.
I also prefer cotton, and I have a precise reason, just like the switch choice.
post #18 of 28
It's something someone made up years ago, and that has been repeated since. For anyone that actually has tried blues, blacks and browns, like me, they are all distinct, but they are all Cherry MX switches.

Since you decided to dodge my explanation of why the double tap thing is ridiculous, let me reiterate. First of all, if you care about double tapping so much that it makes you an amazing gamer, go buy a scissor switch 'board. Actual gamers (not the kind that buy backlit keyboards, and buy hats for tf2) choose what they like. When it comes down to it, you're probably bottoming out the keys anyway when you're gaming with Cherry MXs. When you let go of a key, it is usually in the idle position. No matter the type, they are all 4mm travel, and all have similar design. The actually opertating point, and reset point don't matter, as long as they are not at the complete bottom, or complete top.

Anyway I'd write more but ima go duel.
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First of all, if you care about double tapping so much that it makes you an amazing gamer, go buy a scissor switch 'board.
I don't care about heavy gaming at all, but if a gamer ask, I reply with a logical sentence, surely more logical than saying "all the cherrys are the same"

No need to be Michael Schumacher to understand the difference between a slick and a sculpted tire.

That said there's nothing wrong on using a good scissor switch board, some of them are at least on par with the cherrys, if not better.

The the thinkpads one built by NMB, or the logitech illuminated just to cite two notable examples.
post #20 of 28
The OCN Mechanical Keyboard Guide is quite clear on this. If you are experienced you will have problems. If you are not experienced you will no have problems.

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Although many people find them just fine for gaming, some don't like the fact that the release point is above the actuation point. This can cause some trouble with double-tapping. This is usually the case with someone who has experienced other mechanical switches before hand.
However the WHY is a bit unclear to me. Especially since the Korean Starcraft players haven't seemed to have read the OCN Mechanical Keyboard guide and use Blue Cherrys to win tournaments in their inexperienced noobie way.
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