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Originally Posted by Shrimpykins;13071614 
SB > IB

What?

Least that's how I am reading it. Why is SB-E extreme and IB mainstream?

For Q1 2012 it is. IB won't have an "extreme" processor probably till Q4 2012 just as we won't have an extreme SB out till Q4 2011.

Think of this just as the i7 920 on 1366 socket release was in Q4 Nov 2008. It was considered the "extreme" platform at the time just as it still is today; that is, until later this year in November when the SB-E will be replacing it. SB-EX is the same platform as SB-E but comes unlocked and with more cache and cores.


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Originally Posted by Thingamajig;13071610 
So why do they keep changing sockets? i don't get it.

Was considering upgrading to a sandy platform but i see no point if LGA2011 is going to replace it within a year or less.

2011 is just replacing the old 1366 extreme platform. IB and SB use both the 2011 and 1155 sockets. IB is just a die-shrink of SB. Tick(32nm)-Tock(22nm)

Changing from the old 1366 socket to the new 2011 socket isn't anything to get upset about, since you still need to buy a new mobo because it requires a new chipset with more features and quad channel ram. The socket isn't the only reason you need a new mobo.
Edited by PoopaScoopa - 4/10/11 at 7:38am
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Can't wait for IVY smile.gif.
 
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post #23 of 61
Just to clear the confusion:

Sandy Bridge-EX (supposedly LGA 2011) won't be replacing "Sandy Bridge". SB-EX is still Sandy Bridge.

It won't also be replacing LGA 1155. It will be replacing LGA 1366 as the enthusiast platform. LGA 1155 remains as the mainstream/high-end platform.

The Sandy Bridge micro-architecture will be spread over 2 sockets: LGA 1155 and LGA 2011.

The same thing will happen with Ivy Bridge, which is the 22nm die shrink of the SB architecture. This 22nm die shrink is only coming out after Intel releases Sandy Bridge for both platforms.

Ivy Bridge on LGA 1155 is meant to work on current P67 and H67 chipsets.

However, to complement the release of Ivy Bridge, Intel will also be releasing a new series of chipsets (Panther Point), which will co-exist with Cougar Point (P67, H67 and most likely Z68).

From Wikipedia:
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Ivy Bridge

Ivy Bridge is the codename given to the 22 nm die shrink of the Sandy Bridge architecture. During the Intel Developer Forum (IDF) on September 13, 2010, Intel's CEO Paul Otellini mentioned that Ivy Bridge processors may be introduced as early as in the second half of 2011.[53] According to early roadmap details, Intel is estimating that Ivy Bridge will offer a 20 percent CPU performance advantage over Sandy Bridge.[54]
On the graphics side, there will be support for DirectX 11 and OpenCL 1.1, and Intel is targeting a 30 percent graphics performance and 20 percent overall performance boost compared to Sandy Bridge.[54] It seems that Ivy Bridge might get 16 EUs.[55][56] Ivy Bridge will also support PCI Express 3.0.[57] A new Panther Point chipset, to be released with the Ivy Bridge platform, will offer native USB 3.0 support, while Cougar Point chipsets will be backwards compatible with the Ivy bridge platform.[58][59]
Intel has completed designing Ivy Bridge processors and is planning to showcase them during Computex Taiwan 2011 in June.[60] However, the processors might not come out until 2012.

Edited by PanicProne - 4/10/11 at 8:10am
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This how I see the map working with Intel's logic and past history. It looks like LGA 2011 will NOT be an extreme only. From what the map tells us. It looks like another platform thats for "premium performance" hard to say its LGA 1155 or 2011. My guess is 2011. Also Ivy Bridge looks like it coming to the mainstream part first in 2012. This isn't an issue because Intel has done this before. In 2010, Core i3 and Core i5 family got released. They were based off of Westmere architecture. In March of that year if you guys remember that is when the 980x came out and the other Westmere-EX family.

Things I noticed as well about LGA 1366
-980x will become a 980.
-There will be a couple processors after the 990x.
post #25 of 61
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Originally Posted by KBcobra;13072064 
This how I see the map working with Intel's logic and past history. It looks like LGA 2011 will NOT be an extreme only. From what the map tells us. It looks like another platform thats for "premium performance" hard to say its LGA 1155 or 2011. My guess is 2011. Also Ivy Bridge looks like it coming to the mainstream part first in 2012. This isn't an issue because Intel has done this before. In 2010, Core i3 and Core i5 family got released. They were based off of Westmere architecture. In March of that year if you guys remember that is when the 980x came out and the other Westmere-EX family.

Things I noticed as well about LGA 1366
-980x will become a 980.
-There will be a couple processors after the 990x.

Yes, Ivy Bridge will come to LGA 1155 first, in early 2012.

Those will be drop-in upgrades to current SB chips.
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Wonder how AMD's Bulldozer is gonna stack up against the Sandy Bridge EX. Although Bulldozer will be out way before they come out. Ought to be interesting.
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I envy you guys because you can obviously afford to be preoccupied by what is to be and moreover have no power to effect. With being a manager, having a mortgage, car notes, a kid going to law school I wish I had the time to be speculative about the planned obsolescence of chip-sets and CPU's. Unfortunate Lil' Ole me has to be concerned with the here and the now and be at peace enough to allow tomorrow to take care of tomorrow. I guess I will cross that Ivy Bridge when I get to it, no time to worry about it now.
    
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I envy you guys because you can obviously afford to be preoccupied by what is to be and moreover have no power to effect. With being a manager, having a mortgage, car notes, a kid going to law school I wish I had the time to be speculative about the planned obsolescence of chip-sets and CPU's. Unfortunate Lil' Ole me has to be concerned with the here and the now and be at peace enough to allow tomorrow to take care of tomorrow. I guess I will cross that Ivy Bridge when I get to it, no time to worry about it now.
Is this some kind of "you basement dwellers have no life and argue over computers on the internet" troll?
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Originally Posted by PoopaScoopa;13073469 
Is this some kind of "you basement dwellers have no life and argue over computers on the internet" troll?

If that is your interpretation then you are entitled to it. However I wouldn't be so fast to say that just because one doesn't tow the line one is being a "troll."
Everyone talks about the weather but no one does anything about it, get my point?
    
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I'm looking forward to see what kind of performance we will get out of LGA 2011. Hopefully it's enough to warrant an upgrade or lower the price of the 980/990X tongue.gif
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I envy you guys because you can obviously afford to be preoccupied by what is to be and moreover have no power to effect. With being a manager, having a mortgage, car notes, a kid going to law school I wish I had the time to be speculative about the planned obsolescence of chip-sets and CPU's. Unfortunate Lil' Ole me has to be concerned with the here and the now and be at peace enough to allow tomorrow to take care of tomorrow. I guess I will cross that Ivy Bridge when I get to it, no time to worry about it now.

What does this have to do with the article? Don't se the point of this post.
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