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Well, xorg is built and working, Slim is built and bugged (having no DE seems to freak it out, lol). Xfce is half built, but I gave up after some dependency wanted to install half of Gnome - sod that! I'm working it through slowly, as makepkg doesn't tell you which dependencies are optional at the time (fail). Luckily Arch's package database website is awesome, dead easy to see the picture. Using links isn't that hot though, either that or use my phone and it's GPRS signal (also fail)

Real noob question here - I downloaded a custom kernel (kernel-netbook) from the AUR (which just linked to the Googlecode page) as an Arch package i.e. .pkg.tar.xz
I installed this using pacman, but I can't find any trace of it doing anything? It's not in GRUB like I was expecting, and the only difference in /boot is that it's added a system.map file for itself. Should I have unpacked the package, then compiled & installed it myself (just as one would a vanilla Linux kernel)?
sure it didn't "upgrade" an existing kernel? (like overwrite?)
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KDE is the easiest to build from scratch without problems, look there.
I think running KDE on my netbook is a recipe for disaster, lol

Plus I don't really like KDE much, can't work it right
I like Xfce, and I'm quite enjoying the challenge of building it, even if it seems frustrating sometimes

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sure it didn't "upgrade" an existing kernel? (like overwrite?)
I'm not 100% sure, I'll try a 'uname -r' tomorrow (too late now). I'd be pretty disappointed if it did - no warning from pacman that it was going to do that, plus all new kernels under Ubuntu don't wipe out an existing one (compiling and installing via make install doesn't wipe out existing kernels either). I was really expecting a new GRUB entry for it. I mean, what if the kernel was borked? I'd be completely stuffed!
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I think running KDE on my netbook is a recipe for disaster, lol

Plus I don't really like KDE much, can't work it right
I like Xfce, and I'm quite enjoying the challenge of building it, even if it seems frustrating sometimes



I'm not 100% sure, I'll try a 'uname -r' tomorrow (too late now). I'd be pretty disappointed if it did - no warning from pacman that it was going to do that, plus all new kernels under Ubuntu don't wipe out an existing one (compiling and installing via make install doesn't wipe out existing kernels either). I was really expecting a new GRUB entry for it. I mean, what if the kernel was borked? I'd be completely stuffed!
I had the same thing happen. It didn't overwrite but I couldn't figure out what I was doing wrong. I just downloaded their stock netbook kernel from their google-code page.
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I had the same thing happen. It didn't overwrite but I couldn't figure out what I was doing wrong. I just downloaded their stock netbook kernel from their google-code page.
Yeah, that's what I did. Hmm, I'll have a look tonight
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Update (I seem to be treating this thread as my "build log", lol) - finally got a working Xfce desktop! I've been without a GUI for so long, I've forgotten what one looks like, lol! But man, is vanilla Xfce kinda ugly...It's not horrendous, but the theme looks like OS's did 15 years ago. I'll get that sorted tonight, and get some key apps built + installed. This is such a milestone though, I've built all but a couple of dependencies & packages from source; it hasn't been the easiest (it's been a bit 'Slackware' in parts), but it's been kinda fun. Annoyingly, a couple of packages failed to build - notable the tango-icon-theme package (kept claiming that librsvg wasn't installed, despite that fact that I'd just built it, and installed it, and 'pacman -Qs librsvg' returned a positive find). Still, mostly got there as I'd like....not sure how I'll update packages when new versions come out, as some of them had strings and strings of depenencies

Oh, and I'm on the stock Arch kernel, despite pacman showing that the kernel-netbook package is installed (but I can't find any trace of the kernel files...??). Any ideas on this one?

Edit: I'm an idiot. I didn't realise the PKGBUILD was on the AUR, I'd downloaded the package from the Googlecode page. Scrap that, I'll give the PKGBUILD a go tonight...
Edited by chemicalfan - 4/21/11 at 1:31am
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Sometimes after installing some software it is necessary to "updatedb" or more often, add to path so that it(they) can be found by all that needs it. I know you hate KDE but all the iterations of KPackage have the means to show you the results of the package database.

For example, it shows all installed packages and the exact location where they were installed and even displays errors when something failed to install correctly or completely, even linking. I depend on it a lot for packages that I build myself in Slackware (SlackBuild scripts generally handle this exceptionally well due to solid integration on a vanilla landscape) but also have needed KPackage even in (K)Ubuntu because of the occasional location policy changes or if I get miffed with a wizard and need to go direct to the config.
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Ok, latest update - compiled chromium from source, what a mistake that was!! Took about 4.5 hours on this Atom netbook!! Even glibc only took 2 hours, and the custom kernel about 45 minutes! Not quite sure why chromium took that long, but hey-ho, it's installed now!

Weird behaviour with the custom kernel though, I can't get it working because it's complaining about missing modules (that I can get from the messages). I used the PKGBUILD in the AUR, then ran mkinitcpio and updated grub, and I thought all would be well (oddly, the PKGBUILD triggered menuconfig, but didn't seem to retain any of the changes I'd made!!)

I've still got the build directory, not sure whether it's worth trying the build the modules again? Not 100% sure how I go about this though...
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Ok, latest update - compiled chromium from source, what a mistake that was!! Took about 4.5 hours on this Atom netbook!! Even glibc only took 2 hours, and the custom kernel about 45 minutes! Not quite sure why chromium took that long, but hey-ho, it's installed now!

Weird behaviour with the custom kernel though, I can't get it working because it's complaining about missing modules (that I can get from the messages). I used the PKGBUILD in the AUR, then ran mkinitcpio and updated grub, and I thought all would be well (oddly, the PKGBUILD triggered menuconfig, but didn't seem to retain any of the changes I'd made!!)

I've still got the build directory, not sure whether it's worth trying the build the modules again? Not 100% sure how I go about this though...
why are you relying on a pkgbuild anyway for a kernel? its quite simple to grab the source you want from kernel.org, run menuconfig (or gconfig or xconfig whatever your personal preferences.) pretty simple thing to do.

mkdir /usr/src/linux-version
make mrproper
zcat /proc/config.gz > .config
make oldconfig
make menuconfig
make -j#(number of cores/cpu's+1)
make modules_install
cp -v arch/x86/boot/bzImage /boot/vmlinuz-version-yourtouches
cp -v System.map /voot/System.map-version-yourtouches

if you need anything else, like mkinitcpio, do that here.

its pretty simple to do kernels, no real need to let a package manager handle them, as they don't really have any dependencies and its pretty easy to locate everything they install.

/usr/src/kernel-version (for source and headers if you made them, but you wont need the headers if you keep the source afaik.)

/lib/modules/kernel-version (where it installs the extra compiled modules.)

/boot/vmlinux-version
/boot/System.map-version

i believe that is all the locations, try that .

as for why chromium takes so long, could be the fact chromium is a self contained source, with all its lib's/framework being built directly with it, the standard lib's that chromium uses have been modified, so they get built along with it when you run the build process. it is one of the biggest complaints about chromium, that the distro's would have to maintain two sets of libs, since chromium dev team alter the default ones.
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I could have grabbed the vanilla source from kernel.org, but this was a custom kernel specifically for netbooks. Yeah, I could have done the config myself, but why waste all that time ploughing through menu after menu of options, when someone has already done the hard work for you?

I've got the system.map and the vmlinuz files, and have built a ramdisk image, it crashes whilst booting, complaining about lack of modules (or that's how it looks anyway). I'd post a log up here if I knew where to find it...? I get dumped at a 'ramfs' prompt, and running /bin/sh just throws an error about modules (can't remember exactly)
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I could have grabbed the vanilla source from kernel.org, but this was a custom kernel specifically for netbooks. Yeah, I could have done the config myself, but why waste all that time ploughing through menu after menu of options, when someone has already done the hard work for you?

I've got the system.map and the vmlinuz files, and have built a ramdisk image, it crashes whilst booting, complaining about lack of modules (or that's how it looks anyway). I'd post a log up here if I knew where to find it...? I get dumped at a 'ramfs' prompt, and running /bin/sh just throws an error about modules (can't remember exactly)
doesn't sound like they did much of the work, if it doesn't work correctly

to try building the modules again on their own, just navigate to the kernel source in terminal, and run this command as root:

make modules_install

if that fails, its cause the source was "cleaned" after the first compile, you will have to recompile the whole kernel.
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