Overclock.net › Forums › AMD › AMD CPUs › Phenom Vs. Athlon
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:

Phenom Vs. Athlon

post #1 of 11
Thread Starter 
I guess my question is, is it worth the extra money to buy the Phenom over the Athlon.

I know your gonna say its just a ten dollar difference, but I don't have a job currently and I have a very limited amount of money to spend.

Or if you guys have any other quad core processors for under or around a hundred bucks that you could suggest that would be awesome.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819103921

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819103885

Thanks guys.
 
Home server
(8 items)
 
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
AMD Phenom II X6 960T 3.4 ASUS M5A97 EVGA GTX560ti 448 classified ultra Crucial Ballistix Smart Tracer 1600Mhz CL8 
Hard DriveOptical DriveCoolingOS
Hitachi 1 TB ASUS DRW-2014L1 Cool Master Hyper N 520 Windows 7 Ultimate 64bit 
MonitorPowerCaseAudio
20" Vizio OCZ ZT 650 watt Apevia X-Plorer Philips 5.1 Sterio 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Amd Phenome II 840 MSI 870-G45 XFX 6600GT 4 Gb RipJaws 
Hard DriveCoolingOSAudio
1TB stock Windows Home Server 2011 integrated 
  hide details  
Reply
 
Home server
(8 items)
 
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
AMD Phenom II X6 960T 3.4 ASUS M5A97 EVGA GTX560ti 448 classified ultra Crucial Ballistix Smart Tracer 1600Mhz CL8 
Hard DriveOptical DriveCoolingOS
Hitachi 1 TB ASUS DRW-2014L1 Cool Master Hyper N 520 Windows 7 Ultimate 64bit 
MonitorPowerCaseAudio
20" Vizio OCZ ZT 650 watt Apevia X-Plorer Philips 5.1 Sterio 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Amd Phenome II 840 MSI 870-G45 XFX 6600GT 4 Gb RipJaws 
Hard DriveCoolingOSAudio
1TB stock Windows Home Server 2011 integrated 
  hide details  
Reply
post #2 of 11
The phenom is better binned and overclocks better because of it.
Tiny Dancer
(20 items)
 
Son's Build
(16 items)
 
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i7 6800k Asrock X99e-itx RX Vega 56 Corsair Vengence LPX 
Hard DriveHard DriveCoolingCooling
Western Digital Black SAMSUNG 960 EVO M.2 500GB NVMe Corsair H75  NF-F12 industrialPPC-2000 PWM  
CoolingOSMonitorKeyboard
NF-F12 industrialPPC-2000 PWM  Windows 10 BenQ 32" IPS 4K (BL3201PH) Vortex Poker 3 (White with White LED) 
PowerCaseMouseMouse Pad
Corsair SF600w Ncase M1 V5 (Silver) Logitech G102 Prodigy (Matte White) Glorious PC Gaming Race XXL Extended 
AudioAudioAudioAudio
Soundblaster Omni 5.1 Sennheiser HD 598 kanto Yu2 Desktop Speakers (Gloss White) Kanto Sub 6 (Gloss White) 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
AMD Phenom II X6 1055T Gigabyte 880GMA-UD2H Asus GTX 660 Ti Corsair Vengeance Pro 
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveCooling
PNY SSD CS1311  Samsung SSD 830  Samsung Spinpoit F3 Corsair H50 
OSMonitorKeyboardPower
Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit Samsung SyncMaster 220wm Coolermaster Quickfire Rapid Antec Neo Eco 520C 
CaseMouseMouse PadAudio
Silverstone FT03B Zowie Mico Steelseries QcK Logitech LS21 2.1 Stereo Speakers 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsGraphics
i7-3770K Asus Maximus V Formula VisionTek Reference 7970 Diamond Reference 7970 
RAMHard DriveHard DriveCooling
Corsair Dominator-GT 16GB (4x4GB) SanDisk Extreme Pro Western Digital Black 640GB Bitspower Acrylic DDC Pump Top 
CoolingCoolingCoolingCooling
Bitspower DDC Top Upgrade Kit Bitspower DDC / MCP35x Pump Heatsink - White (B... 2 X EK-FC7970 Nickel CSQ GPU Block 2 X EK-FC7970 Backplate - Black CSQ 
CoolingCoolingCoolingCooling
EK-FB KIT ASUS M5F Nickel Motherboard Block Swiftech MCP35X DDC Pump - White Top XSPC AX360 Triple 120mm Radiator - White XSPC AX480 Quad 120mm Radiator - White 
CoolingCoolingCoolingCooling
EK-Ram Monarch X4 CSQ - (EN) Nickel Plexi EK-Supremacy Clean CSQ - Nickel Plexi Bitspower Silver Shining Fittings 7 x Scythe Gentle Typhoons D1225C12B4AP-15  
OSMonitorKeyboardPower
Windows 7 64bit Home Premium Upgrade Achieva Shimian Lite "Perfect Pixels" Das Keyboard Model S Professional Seasonic X650 (Custom MDPC Sleeve) 
CaseMouseMouse PadAudio
CaseLabs Merlin SM8 (All White) Mionix Avior 7000 SteelSeries QCK Mini Klipsch Pro Media 2.1 
AudioAudioOther
Sennheiser 598 Creative Soundblaster Z NZXT LED Kit - 2 Meter - White (CB-LED20-WH) 
  hide details  
Reply
Tiny Dancer
(20 items)
 
Son's Build
(16 items)
 
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i7 6800k Asrock X99e-itx RX Vega 56 Corsair Vengence LPX 
Hard DriveHard DriveCoolingCooling
Western Digital Black SAMSUNG 960 EVO M.2 500GB NVMe Corsair H75  NF-F12 industrialPPC-2000 PWM  
CoolingOSMonitorKeyboard
NF-F12 industrialPPC-2000 PWM  Windows 10 BenQ 32" IPS 4K (BL3201PH) Vortex Poker 3 (White with White LED) 
PowerCaseMouseMouse Pad
Corsair SF600w Ncase M1 V5 (Silver) Logitech G102 Prodigy (Matte White) Glorious PC Gaming Race XXL Extended 
AudioAudioAudioAudio
Soundblaster Omni 5.1 Sennheiser HD 598 kanto Yu2 Desktop Speakers (Gloss White) Kanto Sub 6 (Gloss White) 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
AMD Phenom II X6 1055T Gigabyte 880GMA-UD2H Asus GTX 660 Ti Corsair Vengeance Pro 
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveCooling
PNY SSD CS1311  Samsung SSD 830  Samsung Spinpoit F3 Corsair H50 
OSMonitorKeyboardPower
Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit Samsung SyncMaster 220wm Coolermaster Quickfire Rapid Antec Neo Eco 520C 
CaseMouseMouse PadAudio
Silverstone FT03B Zowie Mico Steelseries QcK Logitech LS21 2.1 Stereo Speakers 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsGraphics
i7-3770K Asus Maximus V Formula VisionTek Reference 7970 Diamond Reference 7970 
RAMHard DriveHard DriveCooling
Corsair Dominator-GT 16GB (4x4GB) SanDisk Extreme Pro Western Digital Black 640GB Bitspower Acrylic DDC Pump Top 
CoolingCoolingCoolingCooling
Bitspower DDC Top Upgrade Kit Bitspower DDC / MCP35x Pump Heatsink - White (B... 2 X EK-FC7970 Nickel CSQ GPU Block 2 X EK-FC7970 Backplate - Black CSQ 
CoolingCoolingCoolingCooling
EK-FB KIT ASUS M5F Nickel Motherboard Block Swiftech MCP35X DDC Pump - White Top XSPC AX360 Triple 120mm Radiator - White XSPC AX480 Quad 120mm Radiator - White 
CoolingCoolingCoolingCooling
EK-Ram Monarch X4 CSQ - (EN) Nickel Plexi EK-Supremacy Clean CSQ - Nickel Plexi Bitspower Silver Shining Fittings 7 x Scythe Gentle Typhoons D1225C12B4AP-15  
OSMonitorKeyboardPower
Windows 7 64bit Home Premium Upgrade Achieva Shimian Lite "Perfect Pixels" Das Keyboard Model S Professional Seasonic X650 (Custom MDPC Sleeve) 
CaseMouseMouse PadAudio
CaseLabs Merlin SM8 (All White) Mionix Avior 7000 SteelSeries QCK Mini Klipsch Pro Media 2.1 
AudioAudioOther
Sennheiser 598 Creative Soundblaster Z NZXT LED Kit - 2 Meter - White (CB-LED20-WH) 
  hide details  
Reply
post #3 of 11
are you using it for gaming? if so you might want to lean toward the 555x2. i think l3 cache might benifit you more.
always changing
(16 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i5 4690k msi z97i-ack MSI r9 290 2x8 corsair 1600 
Hard DriveHard DriveCoolingOS
m4 128  wd 1tb black noctua u9s win7 64 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
benq 2420z corsair  coolermaster v650 rosewell neutron 
MouseMouse PadAudio
rival 300 razer  corsair sp2500 
  hide details  
Reply
always changing
(16 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i5 4690k msi z97i-ack MSI r9 290 2x8 corsair 1600 
Hard DriveHard DriveCoolingOS
m4 128  wd 1tb black noctua u9s win7 64 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
benq 2420z corsair  coolermaster v650 rosewell neutron 
MouseMouse PadAudio
rival 300 razer  corsair sp2500 
  hide details  
Reply
post #4 of 11
he is right and also the phenom has a higher cache which will benefit you in games. it will decrease stutter but helping stream calculations from RAM to the processor in larger chunks. definately worth it.

also, if you can find a amd 550 or 555 black edition dual core, they unlock to quad with any decent motherboard and are a great value.
Retail Edge Build
(13 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i7 2600k 4.2 Ghz GIGABYTE GA-P67X-UD3-B3 SLI MSI 560 4GB (2x2) G Skill 1600 1.5v cas 8 
Hard DriveOptical DriveOSMonitor
500GB WD RE4 ASUS DRW-24B1ST Windows 7 Pro 64bit ASUS 26" + LG 23" 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
Saitek Cyborg Seasonic X-series 650W Gold CM HAF 922 Steelseries Xai 
Mouse Pad
X Trac pads pro 
  hide details  
Reply
Retail Edge Build
(13 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i7 2600k 4.2 Ghz GIGABYTE GA-P67X-UD3-B3 SLI MSI 560 4GB (2x2) G Skill 1600 1.5v cas 8 
Hard DriveOptical DriveOSMonitor
500GB WD RE4 ASUS DRW-24B1ST Windows 7 Pro 64bit ASUS 26" + LG 23" 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
Saitek Cyborg Seasonic X-series 650W Gold CM HAF 922 Steelseries Xai 
Mouse Pad
X Trac pads pro 
  hide details  
Reply
post #5 of 11
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...-846-_-Product

the addition of 6mb l3 cache is the kicker, but it's dual core so if you dont plan on unlocking the quad core go with a native quad.
Retail Edge Build
(13 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i7 2600k 4.2 Ghz GIGABYTE GA-P67X-UD3-B3 SLI MSI 560 4GB (2x2) G Skill 1600 1.5v cas 8 
Hard DriveOptical DriveOSMonitor
500GB WD RE4 ASUS DRW-24B1ST Windows 7 Pro 64bit ASUS 26" + LG 23" 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
Saitek Cyborg Seasonic X-series 650W Gold CM HAF 922 Steelseries Xai 
Mouse Pad
X Trac pads pro 
  hide details  
Reply
Retail Edge Build
(13 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i7 2600k 4.2 Ghz GIGABYTE GA-P67X-UD3-B3 SLI MSI 560 4GB (2x2) G Skill 1600 1.5v cas 8 
Hard DriveOptical DriveOSMonitor
500GB WD RE4 ASUS DRW-24B1ST Windows 7 Pro 64bit ASUS 26" + LG 23" 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
Saitek Cyborg Seasonic X-series 650W Gold CM HAF 922 Steelseries Xai 
Mouse Pad
X Trac pads pro 
  hide details  
Reply
post #6 of 11
The Phenom 840 does NOT have l3 cache so in that case the phenom and athlon are almost the same thing, except you get more OC room on that 840.
Home Built
(17 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel i5-2500k Asrock Extreme3 Gen3 Z68 Sapphire reference 7950 G.Skill 8gb DDR3-1600 9-9-9-24 
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveOptical Drive
Samsung EVO 840 WD Caviar Green 1tb WD Caviar Black WriteScribe Sata 
OSOSMonitorMonitor
Windows 8.1 Pro Ubuntu 14.10 ASUS VW193T Dell 1907FP 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
Razer Blackwidow Ultimate OCZ StealthXStream 600W Antec One Hundred gaming series Razer Spectre 
  hide details  
Reply
Home Built
(17 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel i5-2500k Asrock Extreme3 Gen3 Z68 Sapphire reference 7950 G.Skill 8gb DDR3-1600 9-9-9-24 
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveOptical Drive
Samsung EVO 840 WD Caviar Green 1tb WD Caviar Black WriteScribe Sata 
OSOSMonitorMonitor
Windows 8.1 Pro Ubuntu 14.10 ASUS VW193T Dell 1907FP 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
Razer Blackwidow Ultimate OCZ StealthXStream 600W Antec One Hundred gaming series Razer Spectre 
  hide details  
Reply
post #7 of 11
The 840 does have L3, it just has 4MB instead of 6.
Mr.Hoover
(13 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Athlon II x4 620 3.5Ghz L3 1.4 unlocked Asus M4A77D Msi Gtx 460 Hawk stock voltage (830/1660, 2130) Ocz Sli 900 Mhz 5-5-5-15 
Hard DriveOSMonitorKeyboard
Western Digital Caviar Green 500/ Spinpoint F1 1T Windows 7 ultimate x64 Acer 23" 1080p G235H Microsoft Sidewinder x6 
PowerCaseMouseMouse Pad
Corsair 750tx cm 690II Advanced Logitech G500 Clipboard 
  hide details  
Reply
Mr.Hoover
(13 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Athlon II x4 620 3.5Ghz L3 1.4 unlocked Asus M4A77D Msi Gtx 460 Hawk stock voltage (830/1660, 2130) Ocz Sli 900 Mhz 5-5-5-15 
Hard DriveOSMonitorKeyboard
Western Digital Caviar Green 500/ Spinpoint F1 1T Windows 7 ultimate x64 Acer 23" 1080p G235H Microsoft Sidewinder x6 
PowerCaseMouseMouse Pad
Corsair 750tx cm 690II Advanced Logitech G500 Clipboard 
  hide details  
Reply
post #8 of 11
i think it would help to know the use of the pc and what mobo your looking at putting in.
always changing
(16 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i5 4690k msi z97i-ack MSI r9 290 2x8 corsair 1600 
Hard DriveHard DriveCoolingOS
m4 128  wd 1tb black noctua u9s win7 64 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
benq 2420z corsair  coolermaster v650 rosewell neutron 
MouseMouse PadAudio
rival 300 razer  corsair sp2500 
  hide details  
Reply
always changing
(16 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i5 4690k msi z97i-ack MSI r9 290 2x8 corsair 1600 
Hard DriveHard DriveCoolingOS
m4 128  wd 1tb black noctua u9s win7 64 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
benq 2420z corsair  coolermaster v650 rosewell neutron 
MouseMouse PadAudio
rival 300 razer  corsair sp2500 
  hide details  
Reply
post #9 of 11
Quote:
Originally Posted by Darkapoc View Post
The 840 does have L3, it just has 4MB instead of 6.
Other 8xx chips are deneb based and have 4 mb l3 cache.

the 840 is propus based and has no l3 cache.
i7
(14 items)
 
AMD
(10 items)
 
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i7 2600k ASUS P8Z68-V Pro HIS 7870 IceQ X 4x4 Gskill Sniper 1600 
Hard DriveHard DriveCoolingOS
Crucial m4 64gb ssd Samsung F3 1tb Corsair H80 Windows 7 x64 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
Gateway FHX2402L LED-LCD 24in 1080p Logitech K120 Corsair TX 850W NZXT Phantom White 
Mouse
Rude Fierce Gaming Mouse 
  hide details  
Reply
i7
(14 items)
 
AMD
(10 items)
 
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i7 2600k ASUS P8Z68-V Pro HIS 7870 IceQ X 4x4 Gskill Sniper 1600 
Hard DriveHard DriveCoolingOS
Crucial m4 64gb ssd Samsung F3 1tb Corsair H80 Windows 7 x64 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
Gateway FHX2402L LED-LCD 24in 1080p Logitech K120 Corsair TX 850W NZXT Phantom White 
Mouse
Rude Fierce Gaming Mouse 
  hide details  
Reply
post #10 of 11
Thread Starter 
Im gonna be using it mostly for gaming, and im putting it on a MSI 870-G45 motherboard

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813130290

but if I without a doubt can unlock the dual core to a quad core I would rather do that, whats the probability that i cant unlock the quad core?
 
Home server
(8 items)
 
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
AMD Phenom II X6 960T 3.4 ASUS M5A97 EVGA GTX560ti 448 classified ultra Crucial Ballistix Smart Tracer 1600Mhz CL8 
Hard DriveOptical DriveCoolingOS
Hitachi 1 TB ASUS DRW-2014L1 Cool Master Hyper N 520 Windows 7 Ultimate 64bit 
MonitorPowerCaseAudio
20" Vizio OCZ ZT 650 watt Apevia X-Plorer Philips 5.1 Sterio 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Amd Phenome II 840 MSI 870-G45 XFX 6600GT 4 Gb RipJaws 
Hard DriveCoolingOSAudio
1TB stock Windows Home Server 2011 integrated 
  hide details  
Reply
 
Home server
(8 items)
 
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
AMD Phenom II X6 960T 3.4 ASUS M5A97 EVGA GTX560ti 448 classified ultra Crucial Ballistix Smart Tracer 1600Mhz CL8 
Hard DriveOptical DriveCoolingOS
Hitachi 1 TB ASUS DRW-2014L1 Cool Master Hyper N 520 Windows 7 Ultimate 64bit 
MonitorPowerCaseAudio
20" Vizio OCZ ZT 650 watt Apevia X-Plorer Philips 5.1 Sterio 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Amd Phenome II 840 MSI 870-G45 XFX 6600GT 4 Gb RipJaws 
Hard DriveCoolingOSAudio
1TB stock Windows Home Server 2011 integrated 
  hide details  
Reply
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:
  Return Home
  Back to Forum: AMD CPUs
Overclock.net › Forums › AMD › AMD CPUs › Phenom Vs. Athlon