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post #11 of 25
add one more under universal:restrictive
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In my opinion then, you should get a full cover block when you buy your next graphics card(s) (whenever that may be). Perhaps then, with that new investment, you'll feel like a full cover block is a worthy expense. Then again, if you buy a universal one now, would you bother with a full cover block next time or is the universal not just to make things cheaper but also to serve you in the future?
Perhaps then the half cover block you mention is a good idea and later on when you change your card for whatever you buy next, get a full cover block from the start.
    
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post #13 of 25
I'm with the OP on this. I prefer universal blocks.

I'm thinking of my future watercooling build and will probably go with a universal block. You get less restriction and better performance. The water doesn't have to cool the ram/vrm and is only restricted in the small block vs the larger block with more restriction.

Ramsinks/vrm chips can be reused. A good quality thermal tape can be reused multiple times. And with ram, you're limited by the frequency of the chips before you get into issues with voltage and temperature.

The only problem would be the vrm chips, but there are many solutions for that.

But there is nothing sexier than a full cover block.
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post #14 of 25
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I don't have any concern for the RAM chips being watercooled; they run heatsink-less rather well. The VREGs are already cooled either way by the metal strip heatsink that came with my 6850 Cyclone.


I am asking whether the half-cover block will offer better performance in terms of GPU cooling rather than an EK/XSPC universal block. If they perform the same, I would go with the universal block just for the sake of having expandability. If the half-cover greatly cools more, I start thinking about getting that instead, seeing the watercooled RAM chips as a plus, rather than a reason to buy.
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post #15 of 25
it does sounds like universal is the way to go for you,here;
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post #16 of 25
honestly you probly should buy neither you arent going to get a big bump in clocks if you aren't investing in a full cover block to cool down the vrms alot better. Biggest things normaly holds ati cards is the vrm cooling the cooler they run the less volts you need to overclock. Example my 5870 on air couldnt pass 920mhz even with the stock cooler at 100% and the gpu temps staying under 65c and vrms around 80-100c. Now on water with the gpu at 40c and vrms under 50c i can do 1000mhz on 1.20.
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post #17 of 25
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EK universal.

GPU temperatures are almost the same. I like expandability.
Not too crazy with cooling RAM with water. Metal works just as well.
VREGs are a different story, but I'm sure I'll manage.
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post #18 of 25
Universal makes sense if you change gpu's frequently. I prefer fullcover blocks for the longterm, especially with difficult boards like 6950/70s.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Buska103;13075879 
Performance-wise, which cool the GPU itself better?

Universal, depending on the block.

Skinnee has done some Universal GPU block tests and found that they are actually quite good. Not all of them are restrictive, and a lot of them did better than the EK universal block on a GTX480 for GPU core temperatures.

Results looked like this:

Restriction:

UniVGA_gpu-pdrop.png

Thermals (480, no OC):

UniVGA_gpu-t-stock.png
Note: THe EK Supreme HF-V mentioned in the charts it a mod of the EK Supreme HF CPU block done by Vapor, he just made a mounting bracket so it could go on a GPU.


Edit: Of the two universal blocks you picked out (EK and XSPC) the EK might get higher temperatures but it is less restrictive, probably a better choice for whole loop performance, especially if you have a few of them.
Edited by GingerJohn - 4/10/11 at 11:12pm
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post #20 of 25
The universal blocks actually performed better than the full block EK FC. xD
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