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However, the PS/2 was quite a step, especially with a PC in the day that has equal capabilities was cost prohibitive for most users. It is hard to say to someone that not only do they need a PC with a set of specifications, but that they have to spend a large amount on a video card, an amount comparable to an entire console. So sure, the hard core OCN type user will justify a PC based gaming system - but it is really hard to sell that set of expectations to mom and dad. One has to remember that in the days that the PS/2 came out, DVD drives were pretty much non existent on the PC platform, and even CD drives were not all that common.
True, you got me there. It's perhaps unfair of me to argue that I was underwhelmed by the PS2 because of the PC platform when my PC was superior to 95% of the general population's at the time. Not only did I have a DVD drive in my PC back then, it was a DVD burner...I was the only person I knew that had one for years and years. So I guess I looked at this with jaded eyes, and probably still do.
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Whats an IP?
Intelectual property.....
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post #63 of 75
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It seems to me that the games selling new systems are typically sequels to tried and true IPs. I have a hard time believing that a new IP has a greater chance of success on new hardware as opposed to current consoles with audiences in the tens of millions.

I'm sure they can manage to stand out earlier on in a console's life, similar to Resistance on the PS3, but that doesn't strike me as something you'd want to bank on.
I agree 101%.
Saying Next-gen is needed for creativity is poor wording IMO. Hardware has already evolved to a point that developers are able to give life to their vision effectively without many hardware constrains. Better resolutions, textures or whatever can't improve upon that.
Let's not forget how difficult and expensive to develop (and buy in the latter case) current-gen AAA games have become. A new generation would make those problems even worse, especially considering the current state of the economy. Eventually both developers AND customers will feel the consequences of this.
A forum of hardware enthusiasts is probably not the best place to argue hardware should stay like it is for now, but let's not forget some of the best games and IPs have come late in the console life-cycle, when developers have truly mastered the hardware they're working with.
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post #64 of 75
they need to start having 2xAA on every 360 title cause i cant play with all those edges
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they need to start having 2xAA on every 360 title cause i cant play with all those edges
I didn't know aliasing can have those effects on people
post #66 of 75
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DICE is not going to license FB2...
They did for Medal of Honour's multiplayer =D
    
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They did for Medal of Honour's multiplayer =D
it's not frostbite 2
 
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post #68 of 75
Let's give MS and Sony a Llanos processor and let 'em go. At least they would have a performance increase (probably 2x the power) and would be able to keep up with 2011 Laptops.
post #69 of 75
I would guess that an APU of some sorts is what they would want to do. Maybe they're just waiting for them to advance a bit so we can cram moar GPU on the die with the CPU.

Who knows really... But I highly doubt that sony and microsoft would try to put the top end GPU of the time in their consoles. Just look at the power draw, cost, cooling needed etc. in graphics cards today.
 
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post #70 of 75
just as long as it doesn't have a 600 dollar release price tag like the ps3 when it came out i think new console idea might help
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