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I thought that since it was in the Linux section that'd be enough. Guess not lol.

Anyways, looks like I may end up dual-booting with Linux again and keep Windows for my Steam games for now, at least until I get an nVidia card or ATI drivers get better.
I'll tell you from experience that Nvidia drivers are better than ATI in linux. They draw more performance from the card and do not have the bugs that the ATI drivers do in WINE.

HOWEVER, I'll admit that ATI has improved over the years, and now with Catalyst drivers you'll be able to play source games and some others that aren't too graphics demanding (make sure to run DX9 mode, this goes for Nvidia too), and you'll be able to run them on medium to high on your type of hardware.

TF2 I never got working well on my hardware, but CSS worked perfectly fine. I wish they offered an optional "OpenGL" mode for the games, but they don't
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I attempted to use the ati drivers again. The good news is they support the 6870 now and performance was not bad for normal use but the big thing is no power management running at max clocks while checking email is just silly. Kind of a deal breaker for me.


Would it be possible to use an nvidia card with my 6870s just for dual boot Linux use or would windows freak outs make it not worth it?
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post #23 of 41
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Last time I used Linux full-time nvidia cards were the only ones with decent drivers. Is this still true or has ATI gotten better?

Reason I ask is because I'm wanting to run Linux full-time again but not if my current video card wont have any decent drivers available.

Thanks all.
honestly it is a hit or miss with ATI in linux...sometimes you can only get the opensource drivers to work correctly, other times both drivers will not work.

the 4670 might be old enough to have better support than the newer/new cards out there.

as for gaming, from my experience, WINE seems to better support nvidia cards. due to the fact nvidia has always had better openGL support (as everything in Directx gets translated over to opengl.)

ati is always improving their support, but at the rate they are doing it, it will be another 5 years before they catch up with the support that nvidia has right now in linux.

if you are absolutely against proprietary drivers/software, then ati imho does have a slightly better driver than nvidia's open source counterpart, which distro are you planning on using?

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I attempted to use the ati drivers again. The good news is they support the 6870 now and performance was not bad for normal use but the big thing is no power management running at max clocks while checking email is just silly. Kind of a deal breaker for me.


Would it be possible to use an nvidia card with my 6870s just for dual boot Linux use or would windows freak outs make it not worth it?
not sure about windows tbh, but i do believe in linux you can tell it which ones to use...but i would think it be a pita to swap you monitor(s) dvi each time you want to go into one or the other, unless you have multiple monitors, one connected to the ati's and the other connected to nvidia...
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not sure about windows tbh, but i do believe in linux you can tell it which ones to use...but i would think it be a pita to swap you monitor(s) dvi each time you want to go into one or the other, unless you have multiple monitors, one connected to the ati's and the other connected to nvidia...
Yeah it was one of those weird ideas I always have in the back of my mind. I was envisioning having the ati cards using dvi and nvidia using the hdmi port on the monitor. I know I could set that up in Linux but I don't know if windows would try to load the nvidia drivers or default into safe graphics mode.

Probably would just be easier to switch to an nvidia system though I actually like ati cards.
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if you are absolutely against proprietary drivers/software, then ati imho does have a slightly better driver than nvidia's open source counterpart, which distro are you planning on using?
I'll probably try out the latest Ubuntu just to see what's different about it, but I'll most likely end up using Slackware.

Also, I do try to support open-source as much as possible.
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Fglrx + WINE is a big NO for the most part. WINE has gotten a bit better now (not so nvidia centric), but fglrx still has bugs here and there that cause problems. If WINE is going to be your main concern here, then best run to nvidia.
For desktop use both are good, but I would go with ATI. Both drivers have video hardware acceleration (though with ATI it is still "new" and not many projects are bothering with it), both have good 3D performance (90-100% that of their Windows drivers), decent 2D (though fglrx tends to work a bit better).
On the open source front, ATI takes the crown. Your HD4670 will be using the r600g driver, which is in pretty good shape and getting better all the time. Nvidia does have open source drivers which do perform rather well with certain old hardware, but the overall support is just not as good.
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post #27 of 41
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Alright. Well then, I'm gonna go ahead and dual-boot with Linux and see how my card runs in WINE. If it runs well I'll report back with my great success, but if it fails I'll be in the market for an nVidia card.

EDIT: Forgot to mention I'll be using Ubuntu 10.10 for now.
post #28 of 41
Nvidia doesn't make you take steel snips to your case to enlarge it.

In all seriousness, I find the Nvidia cards and interface a bit better. I've tried a few ATI cards ad just the whole drivers shenanigans annoy me. Maybe all of this is BS and the Green speaks to me, who knows. I say go with Nvidia.
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post #29 of 41
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Got Steam running perfect, albeit a bit slower than in Windows. Played Portal and it ran good asides from some stuttering and a few graphical glitches. Gonna try a few other Steam games and see how they go.

While my ATI card has done well so far I may still get an nVidia one just so I don't have all the glitches.
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Got Steam running perfect, albeit a bit slower than in Windows. Played Portal and it ran good asides from some stuttering and a few graphical glitches. Gonna try a few other Steam games and see how they go.

While my ATI card has done well so far I may still get an nVidia one just so I don't have all the glitches.
might still have some glitches

but at least youd be glitching at a smooth frame rate! lol
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