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Hi everyone, I'm building a new system, first time I'll ever have a computer this nice or expensive, so wanting to get the best I can for my money.
Mainly for gaming, but of course it'll be good for more than that, budget is around $1300.

Here's whats currently in my cart (ordering this week)
(Click links for newegg page to the parts in this post)

Case - Antec Nine Hundred Two V3 Black Steel ATX Mid Tower

Hard Drive
- Western Digital Caviar Black WD1002FAEX 1TB 7200 RPM SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive

Motherboard - ASUS M4A89GTD PRO/USB3 AM3 AMD 890GX SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 HDMI ATX AMD Motherboard

NIC - Intel PWLA8391GT 10/ 100/ 1000Mbps PCI PRO/1000 GT Desktop Adapter - OEM

Sound Card - Creative Sound Blaster X-Fi Titanium Fatal1ty Professional 70SB088600002 7.1 Channels PCI Express x1 Interface Sound Card

PSU - CORSAIR HX Series CMPSU-750HX 750W ATX12V 2.3 / EPS12V 2.91 SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS SILVER Certified Modular

Memory
- G.SKILL Sniper 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10666) Desktop Memory Model F3-10666CL9D-8GBSR

Processor - AMD Phenom II X6 1090T Black Edition Thuban 3.2GHz Socket AM3 125W Six-Core Desktop Processor HDT90ZFBGRBOX

CPU Fan/Heatsink - COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 Plus RR-B10-212P-G1 "Heatpipe Direct Contact" Long Life Sleeve 120mm CPU Cooler

DVD/CD Burner - ASUS DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS Black SATA 24X DVD Burner - Bulk - OEM

Video Card - EVGA 01G-P3-1373-AR GeForce GTX 460 (Fermi) Superclocked EE 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0

The above video card is the one I originally chose. I have about another $100 at -most- to spend still, doesn't mean I -have- to, but if I could improve much, I'd spend it.

The main thing I'm wondering about is this, should I keep the above video card, or go with a 560Ti for about $30 more, or, should I get rid of the sound card, and go with a GTX570 with the money I'll save?

Also, I'm definitely open to suggestions on all of the above parts or even if you wanted to throw a whole different system at me.

Personally I'd like to stick with NVIDIA for the video card, but I'll just relate my horrible ATI experiences to it being an AGP card that they don't really have drivers for, so I'd be open to going for ATI again IF it was a much better improvement over the NVIDIA card. (It takes hours to get the drivers to actually install on this current ATI AGP card.. and it's always different what gets it to.. )

I like AMD for the processor, but that's just because I've never had an intel processor so I'm kinda clueless when it comes to that side.

Thanks in advanced for any/all help
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post #2 of 57
i would drop teh nic and sound card as your boards onboard will do jsut fine. Get yourself a nice strong card (570 or 580) (or even 480) also get some better ram atleast 1600 mhz ram
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Thanks Onions, I had those there because I was thinking it'd take some load off the CPU.. meaning less lag.. but I've never had anything near this powerful, so maybe I'm just underestimating it.. and according the to details tab of the motherboard, it doesn't support 1600mhz ram?

Edit: Would it be better to just find 1600Mhz RAM, or find 1333Mhz with better timings?
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post #4 of 57
The build in this posting is better for the money:

http://www.overclock.net/intel-gener...l#post13077192

Add your choice of sound-card (if you think it's necessary at all - I don't personally, go with HDD space instead), the power-supply and DVD chosen above, and your chosen GPU. If it's over budget, lose the SSD from the build.

Personally I suggest aiming for a GTX570 or an HD 6950. The GTX460 is old tech and whilst still capable, is going to be the bottleneck in gaming.

This build will destroy yours in gaming and just about everything else. Don't be scared of Intel builds, this IS the best bang for the buck in your price range and I really cannot recommend this enough over the 1090t. You should hit 4.5ghz EASILY with this, and clock for clock will destroy the 1090t in gaming.

*edit* I say this an AMD fan who intends on getting a 1090t for myself. Regardless, on a new build there is no reason to choose AM3 over Sandy Bridge ESPECIALLY when you have over $1k to spend. On your budget a 1090t would unequivocally be a mistake purchase, regardless of the intended application and ESPECIALLY if its a gaming machine.
Edited by willibj - 4/10/11 at 8:23pm
post #5 of 57
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Originally Posted by Onions View Post
i would drop teh nic and sound card as your boards onboard will do jsut fine. Get yourself a nice strong card (570 or 580) (or even 480) also get some better ram atleast 1600 mhz ram
^^This exactly. You mobo has a nic built in, you don't need another. And unless you're planning on getting high end headphones, you won't notice the difference from onboard sound.
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post #6 of 57
+1
on better RAM and video! Sound card is optional depends on will you benifit from it?

1600mhz ram and a gtx570/560 in that ballpark
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post #7 of 57
Honestly the best buy you can get of the newest series of video cards is the reference 6950's as the unlock to the 6970's (perform very well without doing this too). http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814127555
As for drivers many have said that they have come a long way from where they were.
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post #8 of 57
Creative sound cards have a certain reputation of having terrible driver support. Plus, you need a pretty decent 7.1 sound system to justify the cost of a 7.1 sound card.

Also, drop the N1C. "Killer N1C's" are nothing more than a waste of money. Most of the lag for gaming comes from the server-side to the distance it takes to travel from the server to your client. Client-side latency is <1ms anyways. Onboard networking is really good these days.
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post #9 of 57
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Originally Posted by willibj View Post
The build in this posting is better for the money:

http://www.overclock.net/intel-gener...l#post13077192

Add your choice of sound-card (if you think it's necessary at all - I don't personally, go with HDD space instead), the power-supply and DVD chosen above, and your chosen GPU. If it's over budget, lose the SSD from the build.

Personally I suggest aiming for a GTX570 or an HD 6950. The GTX460 is old tech and whilst still capable, is going to be the bottleneck in gaming.

This build will destroy yours in gaming and just about everything else. Don't be scared of Intel builds, this IS the best bang for the buck in your price range and I really cannot recommend this enough over the 1090t. You should hit 4.5ghz EASILY with this, and clock for clock will destroy the 1090t in gaming.

*edit* I say this an AMD fan who intends on getting a 1090t for myself. Regardless, on a new build there is no reason to choose AM3 over Sandy Bridge ESPECIALLY when you have over $1k to spend. On your budget a 1090t would unequivocally be a mistake purchase, regardless of the intended application and ESPECIALLY if its a gaming machine.
Thanks.. just taking a look now.
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post #10 of 57
For starters, I would get the CM 690 II Advanced over that Antec case, followed by changing the HDD to a Samsung F3 Spinpoint 1tb.

Links to the parts:

Samsung F3 1tb
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...5&Tpk=f3%201tb

CM 690 II Adv
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...-216-_-Product
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