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Here's what I have with the intel build, priced $1300.91 not including shipping.
Why is it so much better, other than the overclocking capability?
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post #12 of 57
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Originally Posted by Faint View Post
For starters, I would get the CM 690 II Advanced over that Antec case, followed by changing the HDD to a Samsung F3 Spinpoint 1tb.

Links to the parts:

Samsung F3 1tb
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...5&Tpk=f3%201tb

CM 690 II Adv
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...-216-_-Product
I really like the Antec case compared to all the other ones I've looked at, and why not take advantage of the SATA 6Gb/s?
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post #13 of 57
SATA 6Gb/s is pointless on an HDD, it'll never saturate the bus. They can't even fill a SATA 3Gb/s connection. SSD can on the other hand.

You didn't list a case, have you settled on the Antec?

The Intel chips are just faster clock for clock and dollar for dollar than AMDs at present. That can change, but right now, definitely your best buy.
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post #14 of 57
This is my suggested build. It's just about the best value and most well balanced system you could come up with right now (if I may say so myself).

CPU + heatsink/fan:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboD...t=Combo.625350

MB + RAM:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboD...t=Combo.632698

GPU:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814102914

SSD (OS drive):
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820148357

HDD (Applications & Storage):
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16822152185

DVD:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16827135204

Case:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16811146067

PSU (currently out of stock):
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817116011

Back-up PSU (not matching, just as good):
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817207003

Total Price $1,292

The GPU will most likely unlock to a 6970, and has voltage control for high OC's regardless.

The CPU is MUCH faster clock for clock than any AMD equivalent by quite a lot, and will overclock to 4.5ghz or more. At that speed, nothing can touch it in gaming, nor practically any other situation. They also run very cool on surprisingly modest air cooling (Hyper 212+).

The RAM has surprisingly good timings and runs @ 1600mhz. Sandy Bridge processors like high memory frequency over tight timings, so by loosening the timings on the ram you should hit 1866mhz, perhaps even 2000mhz.

The SSD drive will be a huge boost in load times and browsing for windows. The Samsung F3 HDD is faster and runs cooler than the WD Black equivalent.

The case is GORGEOUS, has big fans plus a fan controller for quiet operation and large airflow. Furthermore, it has loads of space inside and a wonderful system for cable-management.

This build is well balanced, can be upgraded with a 2nd 6950, has the room, the power, etc etc. Most importantly the build features high quality components and is a HUGE bang for your buck with plenty of future-proofing potential. Adding a 2nd 6950 and filling out HDD spaces to suit your storage needs will see you not needing to touch this build for years and years and years.

There's no reason to choose anything else at this point. Anything a 1090t could do at even 4ghz+ will be stomped by the Sandy Bridge quad-core @ 4.5ghz+ with the exception of perhaps some heavy video-editing situations where individual cores account for more, but even then the raw speed of the Sandy Bridge processor will leave them about even. For everything else, the Sandy Bridge will utterly destroy the 1090t in performance.
Edited by willibj - 4/10/11 at 9:12pm
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Originally Posted by Firehawk View Post
SATA 6Gb/s is pointless on an HDD, it'll never saturate the bus. They can't even fill a SATA 3Gb/s connection. SSD can on the other hand.

You didn't list a case, have you settled on the Antec?

The Intel chips are just faster clock for clock and dollar for dollar than AMDs at present. That can change, but right now, definitely your best buy.
Oops, I forgot the case at first.. just forgot to retake the picture, lol.. I'm still going with the Antec one unless I find one I like better.

Thanks for the info on the hard drive.. I really had no idea about it to be honest.. I guess I'll get a 3Gb/s one and save a little bit.
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post #16 of 57
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Originally Posted by Bullet1225 View Post
Oops, I forgot the case at first.. just forgot to retake the picture, lol.. I'm still going with the Antec one unless I find one I like better.
I HIGHLY recommend you look beyond the Antec series, below the 1200.

You WILL find that you've run out of space in there one day. With the mounting of the HDD's, you will potentially impede your ability to add a crossfire card and extra HDD's. They stick out into the area in which the motherboard occupies.

For the same style and price, PLEASE consider the Lian-Li Lancool PC-K62/K63, or the NZXT Tempest Evo, or the NZXT Phantom, or the Rosewill Blackhawk, or the Cooler Master HAF922/Storm Scout/CM690-II Advanced.

All of the above cases are undoubtedly better than the Antec in my experience and opinion. I personally started with an Antec 300 case and simply outgrew it within months. Great starter cases for people on budgets, but I'm trying to help you avoid a huge mistake. Trust
post #17 of 57
GET A 6950!

This should be a HUGE consideration. It unlocks to a 6970 which adds tremendous bang for buck.
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|WD Caviar Black 640GB|Seagate Barracudas 2TB X2| Lite-On Black 24X DVD Burner Cooler Master Hyper 212+ Windows 7 Professional 64-bit 
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post #18 of 57
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Quote:
Originally Posted by willibj View Post
This is my suggested build. It's just about the best value and most well balanced system you could come up with right now (if I may say so myself).

.......

Total Price $1,292

The GPU will most likely unlock to a 6970, and has voltage control for high OC's regardless.

The CPU is MUCH faster clock for clock than any AMD equivalent by quite a lot, and will overclock to 4.5ghz or more. At that speed, nothing can touch it in gaming, nor practically any other situation. They also run very cool on surprisingly modest air cooling (Hyper 212+).

The RAM has surprisingly good timings and runs @ 1600mhz. Sandy Bridge processors like high memory frequency over tight timings, so by loosening the timings on the ram you should hit 1866mhz, perhaps even 2000mhz.

The SSD drive will be a huge boost in load times and browsing for windows. The Samsung F3 HDD is faster and runs cooler than the WD Black equivalent.

The case is GORGEOUS, has big fans plus a fan controller for quiet operation and large airflow. Furthermore, it has loads of space inside and a wonderful system for cable-management.

This build is well balanced, can be upgraded with a 2nd 6950, has the room, the power, etc etc.

There's no reason to choose anything else at this point. Anything a 1090t could do at even 4ghz+ will be stomped by the Sandy Bridge quad-core @ 4.5ghz+ with the exception of perhaps some heavy video-editing situations where individual cores account for more, but even then the raw speed of the Sandy Bridge processor will leave them about even. For everything else, the Sandy Bridge will utterly destroy the 1090t in performance.
Wow, thanks.. I had heard that SSD's were great but I really have no clue what to do when it comes to them or setting them up.. and on the card, like I said I'll go ATI.. but is there a similar NVIDIA card for roughly the same price, or could you try to convince me of why I should get that over an NVIDIA one?

I still prefer the Antec case over that one to be honest.

Here's what I have now:

DVD/CD Drive cut off, it's the only other thing you can't see in the picture, total price w/ shipping - $1322
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Looks good.

For info on setting up the SSD, go here.
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RAMRAMHard DriveHard Drive
OCZ Gold 1600, 3x2GB Kingston HyperX 1600, 3x4GB OCZ Vertex 2 240GB WD Black 1TB 
Hard DriveOSMonitorKeyboard
WD Black 1TB Windows 7 Pro x64 Viewsonic VP2770-LED Thermaltake Poseidon MX Brown 
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post #20 of 57
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Quote:
Originally Posted by willibj View Post
I HIGHLY recommend you look beyond the Antec series, below the 1200.

You WILL find that you've run out of space in there one day. With the mounting of the HDD's, you will potentially impede your ability to add a crossfire card and extra HDD's. They stick out into the area in which the motherboard occupies.

For the same style and price, PLEASE consider the Lian-Li Lancool PC-K62/K63, or the NZXT Tempest Evo, or the NZXT Phantom, or the Rosewill Blackhawk, or the Cooler Master HAF922/Storm Scout/CM690-II Advanced.

All of the above cases are undoubtedly better than the Antec in my experience and opinion. I personally started with an Antec 300 case and simply outgrew it within months. Great starter cases for people on budgets, but I'm trying to help you avoid a huge mistake. Trust
Thanks, I've never seen these, and I've looked at several cases, I like the Lian-Li Lancool PC-K63 the best, but I'd go with the Cooler Master HAF922 if it were better somehow, my computer sits on a carpeted floor, if that would help decide?
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