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I'm very close to making a purchase of some sort of 6950 2 GB card and I'm narrowing down my options. I like the looks of the MSI 6950 Twin Frozr III http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814127575, but there are many conflicting reports about whether or not you can unlock the shaders. I've been searching OCN and the web quite a bit on this. I know that pretty much any reference 6950 2GB is fully unlockable. I'm not willing to do the full 6970 unlock, just the shaders. I'm also aware that you can actually get more out of the card by overclocking it than just unlocking the shaders, but I'd like to do both. To me the Twin Frozr III looks like having your cake and eating it too if you can unlock. I would really like to keep things as cool and quiet as possible and I know the reference blower cards are not really quiet. They can keep it cool, but at deafining sound levels. I know that Techpowerup was able to unlock their twin frozr III, but everyone else says no or that it's a roll of the dice. I'm aware there is only one bios on the card, too.

Anyway, can anyone here who owns the twinfrozr III confirm or deny and post proof?

The other options I'm considering are the two sapphire cards, one reference http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814102914 and one not http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814102928
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It will unlock for sure, I hear nothing but unlocks for the card.
    
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It will unlock for sure, I hear nothing but unlocks for the card.
Thanks, but can you verify for sure? Do you or someone you know have it? The reason i'm skeptical about techpowerup is that they mistook the fan profile switch for the bios switch. They didn't actually flash it, they just assumed you could because of the switch that doesn't actually exist.

It seems to be a lot of confusion on the topic out there, but I have yet to see proof yet. There aren't any screenshots showing 1536 sharers on a twin frzr iii.
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I'm also interested in this, I was planning on buying two TFIII's for crossfire, but i've heard that they mistook the bios switch?
Even so, i'll probably get them and just overclock them since it has awesome cooling compared to the ref cards..
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It should unlock fine. Non-reference cards are also unlocking like the reference ones and there is no difference with the TF3. It should unlock. If it doesn't then I guess you got unlucky and got one that didn't unlock.
    
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http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814102914

I can confirm will unlock and overclock @ the same time with voltage control in Afterburner, however it won't overvolt in Trixx.
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unlocked one last night for a friend. worked great
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I am considering to get 2x 6950 Twin Frozr III too.
But I found this:

Temps:http://hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1596910

Quote:
.)To answer my own question (in case it benefits anyone else) I picked up two Twin Frozr III's and I'm seeing 90c temps / 100% fan on the inside card. So no way these work for crossfire w/o some spacing between the cards.

I'm trying downclocking them now to reference 6950 speeds to see if that helps at all. So far after 5 min in BF2 the inside card is 79c (with the case open). Doesn't look good.

Unlockability:http://www.overclockers.com/forums/s...d.php?t=672911

Quote:
.)THIS CARD WON'T UNLOCK PERIOD!!! This is a non-reference card so sorry but you are COMPLETELY out of luck. This card uses a custom MSI PCB which improves overclocking but disables unlocking the GPU. There is only 1 BIOS, not 2. Sorry for the bad news, but this wasn't a secret that this card couldn't be unlocked so don't go blaming MSI. It will overclock though far so try to get it to 1ghz to make up for the lack of unlocking. The cooler is also much better.

.)You guys don't understand that a REFERENCE 2gb model is the ONLY 6950 that will unlock. No other will if it's 1gb or a non-reference card. It must look like this with 2gb of VRAM. Otherwise it won't unlock period.

.)This is incorrect information so please refer to my previous post. It all depends on if the GPU has been laser cut or not; results are mixed for non-reference and 1GB PCBs.

So according to the red colored statement of the thread not every card is bound to just unlock or not it is rather a bit of a gamble if the concerned card has been laser cut or not.
So there are branches that were and others that weren´t laser cut by AMD so the odds of any 6950 unlocking depens on the possibility of it having been laser cut or not...according to the thread.

But according to techpower up MSI does have a high unlocking probability due to their tested cards (although I am not sure the numbers shown in the picture include the Twin Frorz III).So is the statement coming from the thread nonsense?Or did techpowerup just review cards of a branch that just wasn´t laser cut?


Edited by Kung Pow - 4/11/11 at 8:25pm
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Originally Posted by Kung Pow View Post
I am considering to get 2x 6950 Twin Frozr III too.
But I found this:

Temps:http://hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1596910

Quote:
.)To answer my own question (in case it benefits anyone else) I picked up two Twin Frozr III's and I'm seeing 90c temps / 100% fan on the inside card. So no way these work for crossfire w/o some spacing between the cards.

I'm trying downclocking them now to reference 6950 speeds to see if that helps at all. So far after 5 min in BF2 the inside card is 79c (with the case open). Doesn't look good.

Unlockability:http://www.overclockers.com/forums/s...d.php?t=672911

Quote:
.)THIS CARD WON'T UNLOCK PERIOD!!! This is a non-reference card so sorry but you are COMPLETELY out of luck. This card uses a custom MSI PCB which improves overclocking but disables unlocking the GPU. There is only 1 BIOS, not 2. Sorry for the bad news, but this wasn't a secret that this card couldn't be unlocked so don't go blaming MSI. It will overclock though far so try to get it to 1ghz to make up for the lack of unlocking. The cooler is also much better.

.)You guys don't understand that a REFERENCE 2gb model is the ONLY 6950 that will unlock. No other will if it's 1gb or a non-reference card. It must look like this with 2gb of VRAM. Otherwise it won't unlock period.

.)This is incorrect information so please refer to my previous post. It all depends on if the GPU has been laser cut or not; results are mixed for non-reference and 1GB PCBs.

So according to the red colored statement of the thread not every card is bound to just unlock or not it is rather a bit of a gamble if the concerned card has been laser cut or not.
So there are branches that were and others that weren´t laser cut by AMD so the odds of any 6950 unlocking depens on the possibility of it having been laser cut or not...according to the thread.

But according to techpower up MSI does have a high unlocking probability due to their tested cards (although I am not sure the numbers shown in the picture include the Twin Frorz III).So is the statement coming from the thread nonsense?Or did techpowerup just review cards of a branch that just wasn´t laser cut?

Anyone wanna respond?
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