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post #11 of 19
well most of us are nerds in a basement with no life so we have PLENTY of time to waste!
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The better reason for software is.... time. 10 min vs hours. Time is not cheap, at least I don't feel my time is. That would be the main reason for me.
I don't understand your argument. Most BIOSes have profile banks, so you can save your basic template and work off of that. You boot up into the bios, change your settings, then boot to Windows. Then you can test for stability. If you crash, you reboot and repeat the process. It's basically the same thing with software but in a different order. You would boot, go to Windows, change settings in software, then test for stability. If you have a hard crash, go through the settings again.

I think it's insane you would say it takes hours to overclock in the bios but yet only 10 minutes for software. I will agree that software is probably faster, but definitely only by a very slim amount of time.
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The overall result might be the same but I think you learn more about your machine when you do the overclock in the bios. At the end of the day its up to you mate.
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no not exactly. Software overclocking is unstable. But i agree with poonberry. All we need is redhat to troll a lil
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When I had my Crosshair IV Formula I experimented with Asus Turbo V a little and after a while my computer started acting really weird. Random blue screen, instant shutdowns, boot problems all kinds of things. I had a stable oc before I tried it using the bios and used it just to experiment a little with some things. I think it was starting to corrupt the bios or something to that degree. I think it was happening because of the random shutdowns or bluescreens we get from stress testing our oc's and since this software directly manipulates the bios. It cant be good to have your computer just shutdown while this software is manipulating your bios. The only way I could get rid of the problems was flashing to an older bios then re-flashing back to the current ones. Since then I have never installed it and dont intend to anymore either.

I dont know if that was what was happening exactly but like I said the only way I got the problems to go away was to flash back then reflash. BTW I had to do it a couple of times because it didnt dawn on me what was happening. Every time after the re-flashing it would be fine, until I went experimenting again.
 
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BIOS

Its a more semi perminate effective overclock, It will not revert or break just because windows crashes.
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Oh I just realized you are referring to the automated overclocking utilities. They are bad for a few reasons. Every piece of hardware is different. There is no way for the automated stuff to effectively set frequencies, voltages, or any other settings. In almost all cases, they're going to set the voltage higher than you need it to be. This will cause higher temperatures, more power draw, and a very slight decrease in CPU life span. Most of the time they aren't going to set your RAM frequency/timings properly either. Also there is no guarantee that those settings are going to be stable, you should stress test it regardless.

The time thing is a good reason to use it, but spend an extra 10 minutes manually configuring your settings in the bios. If you are inexperienced or have questions about the settings or anything else, that's why you're on OCN
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Honestly, I'm not sure I get the whole software thing- does the software have to be running in windows for the OC to work? That would be lame.

And I also don't get the speedstep thing- which I thought I did. I disabled it in BIOS to see if CPU-Z would show the 4.7 OC at idle- it doesn't. CPU-Z shows 1.6 or something until a load hits then its up to 4.7.

Which is another perplexing thing- I decompressed a 5G file with winrar, and CPU-Z still only shows 1.6. I thought there was a fair amount of work being done there but I guess not? If I was at 4.7 even at idle, would that decompress have been faster?
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