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A buddy wants me to build a computer, and here's what I have thrown together. This rig will NOT be overclocked, and the games played will mainly be FPS (tho nothing newer than Q4 '09 or Q1 2010 time frame, and maybe Duke Nukem Forever). I think he'll also do some video editing/making stuff also. I will be ordering this soon, but wanted to get some community feedback to make sure I'm thinking of everything and that I haven't missed anything. Anyway, here's the specs

CPU - i5 2500 ($210 + shipping)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819115073

Mother Board GIGABYTE GA-P67A-UD3-B3 ($135 + shipping)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813128476

Case - Cooler Master Elite 430 ($50 + FREE shipping! )
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16811119227

RAM - Patriot Gamer 2 Series (DDR3 1600 2x2GB) ($52 + Free shipping )
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820220556

Power Supply - hec XP1080 ($100 + shipping)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817339035

HDD - I will probably pick up whatever I can for ~$60 at Microcenter (as long as it's SATA 6.0Gb/s)

DVD drive - ASUS Black ($20 + shipping)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16827135204

For video cards, I'm sticking with Nvidia, but I'm having a hard time deciding which one to pick. The 460's have a superior memory bus (256 bit vs 192) and have more processor cores (288 vs 192), but the 550's have vastly superior core and shader clocks, as well as effective memory clock(900mhz Ref vs 648mhz core, 1800mhz vs 1296 for shaders, and 4100mhz vs 3400 memory clock).

According to this page
http://www.nvidia.com/object/graphic...s_buy_now.html
The 460's are superior to the 550 Ti, so I'm leaning towards a 460 like this one
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814130591
$160 + shipping.

If you think I should go with an i5 660, what MoBo do you recommend? ~$800 is the budget for the hardware and shipping, as I still have to purchase a copy of Win7.

Thoughts, comments, s or s?

BTW I'm set on an Intel. Nothing against AMD, but I'm not that familiar with their stuff at the moment, and my buddy really wants an i series processor.
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Kingston 64GB SSD, 1TB Hitachi and 3 160GB drives ASUS dual layer SATA II DVD burner Windows 7 Pro 64 Bit and a few virtual machines ;) Hanns.G Hi221D 22" LCD Widescreen 
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#1: Poor choice of a board if he plans to SLI later on, since it would run in 16x/4x. Much better board: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813130582

#2: Stick with 1.5v memory, not 1.65v. Better RAM (and timings):
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820231443

#3: That power supply is crap. Go with this one, instead:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817207015

#4: For a hdd, go with the Samsung Spinpoint F3 1TB.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16822152185

Case looks looks good, DVD burner looks good.


Edited by Diabolical999 - 4/11/11 at 12:10am
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Samsung Spinpoint F3 1TB Cooler Master Hyper N520 Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1 ASUS VH236H 23" 1080p | 2ms 
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Originally Posted by Diabolical999 View Post
#1: Poor choice of a board if he plans to SLI later on, since it would run in 16x/4x. Much better board: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813130582

#2: Stick with 1.5v memory, not 1.65v. Better RAM (and timings):
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820231443

#3: That power supply is crap. Go with this one, instead:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817207011

#4: For a hdd, go with the Samsung Spinpoint F3 1TB.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16822152185

Case looks looks good, DVD burner looks good.
Thanks for the response. I was aware of the SLI issues with the board I linked, but unless a game comes out that absolutely requires SLI, I guarantee he won't consider it. Guess I should've stated so in the OP. My bad. I'll check out the specs of the board you listed.

I had considered the G.Skill Ripjaws, but I'm kinda partial to Patriot. I'll go back and reconsider (and most likely purchase) the G.Skill.

I was wondering about the power supply I linked (even with it's 81% rating of 4 eggs and up). I like the one you linked.

The HDD you linked is sweet, but I was looking for a SATA 6.0Gb/s, that one is 3.0Gb/s. He's willing to cut capacity down to 320GB for a SATA 6.0Gb/s drive at the right price.

I noticed you chose the 550 Ti over the similarly priced 460. Are core/shader clocks more important than memory bandwidth and processor cores?

Thanks for your input, I appreciate it Diabolical!
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Kingston 64GB SSD, 1TB Hitachi and 3 160GB drives ASUS dual layer SATA II DVD burner Windows 7 Pro 64 Bit and a few virtual machines ;) Hanns.G Hi221D 22" LCD Widescreen 
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Correct me if I'm wrong but only a handful of SSDs can use SATA 6.0Gb/s ...and we're talking about HDDs here...
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Correct me if I'm wrong but only a handful of SSDs can use SATA 6.0Gb/s ...and we're talking about HDDs here...
There are some HDD's that are SATA 6.0Gb/s. Western Digital and Seagate both have 6.0Gb/s models. I need to browse Microcenter and see what they have. I'll probably do that on my lunch break tomarrow (or today since it is after midnight)
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Hard DriveOptical DriveOSMonitor
Kingston 64GB SSD, 1TB Hitachi and 3 160GB drives ASUS dual layer SATA II DVD burner Windows 7 Pro 64 Bit and a few virtual machines ;) Hanns.G Hi221D 22" LCD Widescreen 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
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Kingston 64GB SSD, 1TB Hitachi and 3 160GB drives ASUS dual layer SATA II DVD burner Windows 7 Pro 64 Bit and a few virtual machines ;) Hanns.G Hi221D 22" LCD Widescreen 
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Using SATA 6.0Gb/s and taking advantage of it are two different things. There are only a handful of SSD's that take advantage of SATA 6.0Gb/s, and they are way faster than HDD's in terms of speed, so if you can save money on a SATA 3.0Gb/s drive you might as well get one of those instead.
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"While even the fastest conventional hard disk drives can barely saturate the original SATA 1.5 Gbit/s bandwidth..."

Sata 6 HDD?...

I might be getting this wrong...

But what's the purpose of the SATA 6.0 Gb/s hard drive than?
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Komder View Post
"While even the fastest conventional hard disk drives can barely saturate the original SATA 1.5 Gbit/s bandwidth..."

Sata 6 HDD?...

I might be getting this wrong...

But what's the purpose of the SATA 6.0 Gb/s hard drive than?
Marketing.

A RAID 0 configuration may make things a bit faster, though as far as I know are still not close to saturating SATA 2 speeds. Plus a SSD and HDD combo would be a wiser purchase than a second HDD (unless they needed to mirror the drive for backup or something).
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