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From Wikipedia
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Micro stuttering is a term used in computing to describe a quality defect inherent to multi-GPU configurations, such as nVidia SLi and ATI Crossfire, using AFR.
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My Bad. Someone already quoted Wiki, without giving the Wiki credit http://www.overclock.net/nvidia/9879...l#post13089691
Edited by gre0481 - 4/11/11 at 4:56pm
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Originally Posted by tehmaggot View Post
Microstutter is a fundamental flaw in multi-GPU setups. It's the delay between showing frames drawn by one card and drawing frames from another card. The two (or more) cards can't work together as quickly to produce frames as one card can spit them out sequentially.

People often confuse it with low FPS or chugging gameplay, when it's really just an increased delay between frames due to the multi-GPU design.
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Originally Posted by charlie97 View Post
Dude, that's not Micro Stutter, Micro Stutter ONLY occurs on Multi-GPU setups. Micro stuttering is a term used in computing to describe a quality defect inherent to multi-GPU configurations, such as nVidia SLi and ATI Crossfire, using AFR. It manifests as irregular delays between frames rendered by the multiple GPUs, causing the instantaneous frame rate of the longest gap to be significantly lower than the frame rate reported by benchmarking applications, such as 3DMark, as they usually calculate the average frame rate over a second. In lower frame rates when this effect may be apparent the moving video appears to stutter, resulting in a degraded gameplay experience in the case of a video game, even though the frame rate seems high enough to provide a smooth experience. Single-GPU configurations do not suffer from this defect and can in some cases output a subjectively smoother video compared to a multi-GPU setup using the same video card model.
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Originally Posted by tehmaggot View Post
Making me blush
It's simple, on the money and to the point

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My take on this...

The irony of this issue is those that force the max frame rate and fail to realize that optimizing the performance of the milti card platform at a frame rate slightly above the monitors capable refresh rate should eliminate this known issue.

Basically an exorbitant frame rate production by a milti GPU system is problematic.
But, gearing the multi GPU to work with the monitors refresh rate can inhibit the multi GPU FPS performance.
    
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Quote:
Originally Posted by The Duke View Post
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Quote:
Originally Posted by The Duke View Post
It's simple, on the money and to the point

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My take on this...

The irony of this issue is those that force the max frame rate and fail to realize that optimizing the performance of the milti card platform at a frame rate slightly above the monitors capable refresh rate should eliminate this known issue.

Basically an exorbitant frame rate production by a milti GPU system is problematic.
But, gearing the multi GPU to work with the monitors refresh rate can inhibit the multi GPU FPS performance.
Hey duke, glad you could come witness the trolls on my threads.

Maybe you should do some cleaning and get them to stop stalking me and spreading incorrect information.

I never heard of the term micro stutter until I tried to google my problem for 2 days.

I will post videos tonight of micro stutter first hand. It does NOT effect my fps in games, it has sudden bursts like its skippin frames.

I never had this issue on my socket 939, same exact setup. only thing I changed was the cpu, mobo, and ram. SAME CARDS.

It might be the drivers also, ill roll them back and post results.

keep uneducated troll brett off my page, 90% of users are proving him wrong as usual and he is polluting my threads with trollism trash.


400fps still getting stutter in guild wars. a game that requires a pentium 3 processor.
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I don't buy this explanation "It manifests as irregular delays between frames rendered by the multiple GPUs" as even with a single GPU, there will be irregular 'delays' from one frame to the next.

Edit: example; at 30 FPS, the card will not draw another frame at exactly 33.3ms. It may take 20ms for one frame, 50ms for the next. This is not different from multiple cards.

FnkDctr: Disrepecting other people will win you no friends, and will garner no help.
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Whoa, whoa, whoa. Everybody calm down. Nothing to get so excited about.
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I don't buy this explanation "It manifests as irregular delays between frames rendered by the multiple GPUs" as even with a single GPU, there will be irregular 'delays' from one frame to the next.

Edit: example; at 30 FPS, the card will not draw another frame at exactly 33.3ms. It may take 20ms for one frame, 50ms for the next. This is not different from multiple cards.
You must be a brett fan lol. You couldnt be more wrong.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Micro_stuttering

I would suggest try reading about the topic before you make a post about it
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Hey duke, glad you could come witness the trolls on my threads.

Maybe you should do some cleaning and get them to stop stalking me and spreading incorrect information.

I never heard of the term micro stutter until I tried to google my problem for 2 days.

I will post videos tonight of micro stutter first hand. It does NOT effect my fps in games, it has sudden bursts like its skippin frames.

I never had this issue on my socket 939, same exact setup. only thing I changed was the cpu, mobo, and ram. SAME CARDS.

It might be the drivers also, ill roll them back and post results.

keep uneducated troll brett off my page, 90% of users are proving him wrong as usual and he is polluting my threads with trollism trash.


400fps still getting stutter in guild wars. a game that requires a pentium 3 processor.
As I stated in your rant thread...
We are experiencing some moderation coverage difficulties in a few section and this section is one of them... sorry for the inconvenience.

If everyone would approach their opinions based with fact in a friendly manner we wouldn't be having these issues!

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On your 'high frame rate' claim.
You might want to consider my previous statement.

Those that seek extreme FPS on multi GPU platforms exacerbate the 'stuttering' issue common to this configuration.
    
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You must be a brett fan lol. You couldnt be more wrong.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Micro_stuttering

I would suggest try reading about the topic before you make a post about it
I suggest you treat others with the respect they deserve.

I explained why I disagree with the explanation on wiki. If you'd paid attention, you'd also see I'm disagreeing with Brett.
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