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Glad to hear you fixed it. However, you never told us that it was only one game, you never said it ran other titles fine. In fact, you said "since right now it is stuttering in an awful lot of games due to downclocking when it shouldn't." So, the obvious route to assume was it was hardware related because your cpu/gpu pairing is quite rare. A low-end CPU can sometimes over-bottleneck a strong card enough that it doesn't rival much weaker graphics cards due to how the new cards need to communicate. Had we known it was only one game affected rather than "an awful lot", we'd have taken a far different approach.

Also, in the future,

is not an ideal way to talk to people trying to help you for free.
I haven't fixed anything yet. That was related purely with that game, and I've disabled those settings since, which made the stuttering more bearable, but it still hasn't fixed it. I'm getting it in Nvidia-based games as well now, most recently Lead and Gold where FPS counts down to 2-3 then goes back up to 40+ normal.

And as for the last thing: I understand and appreciate whatever help I can get but I'm sorry; I can't exactly stay in a cheerful state of mind after people keep posting irrelevant information on something I have asked nothing about without at least reading my first post and what I'm trying to do, and it isn't exactly the first time.
    
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Your first post says nothing about having run the games before, and even still, it is possible that it's the CPU limiting the card enough where it can't actually do it's full clocks when it needs to. Just because they're not saying what you want to hear doesn't mean they're not attempting to help.

Assuming it isn't the CPU, first try updating to the new beta drivers with a clean install. After that, see if you can change out of adaptive in the nvidia control panel. We can work from there.
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bottleneck??

maybe not enough Horse power to drive the wagon...

but i doubt that 3d clocks won't kick in when you run any game on it..have you checked for the card temps??heat also causes the card to downclock automatically..
Edited by kairi_zeroblade - 4/14/11 at 9:31pm
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Your first post says nothing about having run the games before, and even still, it is possible that it's the CPU limiting the card enough where it can't actually do it's full clocks when it needs to. Just because they're not saying what you want to hear doesn't mean they're not attempting to help.

Assuming it isn't the CPU, first try updating to the new beta drivers with a clean install. After that, see if you can change out of adaptive in the nvidia control panel. We can work from there.
My first post says enough about the problem without making it a long-winded post (I said it happens where it shouldn't, which is straightforward enough). And there's no possible way my or any other CPU would literally stop the GPU from at least running at full clocks, since it has nothing to do with the processor. My motherboard uses the same PCI-Express standards that everyone else has on their motherboards and is using. I will see what changes beta drivers introduce and whether or not I should update them.
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bottleneck??

maybe not enough Horse power to drive the wagon...

but i doubt that 3d clocks won't kick in when you run any game on it..have you checked for the card temps??heat also causes the card to downclock automatically..
It's at about 51C at highest load. I've also run it under Furmark load for days, it has no problems doing this.
    
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It's at about 51C at highest load. I've also run it under Furmark load for days, it has no problems doing this.
then I'm certain that in that particular game you need more horse power..in short its a bottleneck..
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then I'm certain that in that particular game you need more horse power..in short its a bottleneck..
Perhaps this GPU-Z log will enlighten you as to what the problem ACTUALLY IS, since me stating the problem doesn't seem to be enough. I took it during playing Killing Floor (this game has a Pentium 4 @ 2.4GHz as a recommended CPU (and 1GB RAM) as well as a 128MB pixel shader 2 supported card, what the hell kind of "bottleneck" are you talking about exactly? I could almost max it on a 8600GTS, and could fully max it on a 8800GT and my old 2900XT with every setting on highest with the EXACT same rig).

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I'm having a similar issue with my Gigabyte 460 1GB. Latest (also tried older) drivers, flashed to F3 BIOS, set to 'prefer high performance' or whichever in NvCP, running Afterburner, and I can see the clocks drop during gaming on my G15 screen. It will at (seemingly) random go down to 405mhz (low power 3D clock, I believe) for a while. Makes MWLL unplayable when it happens.

CPU running about 70% core 0 and 50% core 2. GPU between 45-55%. If I max settings the GPU will run 100% load and the clocks won't drop, but that also renders the game unplayable. I just want the stupid GPU to run advertised clocks. Gigabyte wants me to RMA the card but I suspect any replacement would do the same thing...

edit: Oh yeah, temps are fine. Under 50C.
Edited by ratbuddy - 4/16/11 at 11:08am
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I'm having a similar issue with my Gigabyte 460 1GB. Latest (also tried older) drivers, flashed to F3 BIOS, set to 'prefer high performance' or whichever in NvCP, running Afterburner, and I can see the clocks drop during gaming on my G15 screen. It will at (seemingly) random go down to 405mhz (low power 3D clock, I believe) for a while. Makes MWLL unplayable when it happens.

CPU running about 70% core 0 and 50% core 2. GPU between 45-55%. If I max settings the GPU will run 100% load and the clocks won't drop, but that also renders the game unplayable. I just want the stupid GPU to run advertised clocks. Gigabyte wants me to RMA the card but I suspect any replacement would do the same thing...

edit: Oh yeah, temps are fine. Under 50C.
Yep, this is totally Nvidia's driver problem. RMAing the card can only give you problems as they could replace your perfectly working card with either a refurbished or a bad one. I suggest you contact Nvidia about this instead of Gigabyte, I know I will tomorrow.

Here's some more proof. I don't know what else I can try to get it to stop downclocking/downvolting. I remember my friend having this same problem with an 8800GT back when it was released, same thing with GTX 280. For God's sake Nvidia, if you can't be bothered to fix your drivers at least let us run our cards at full speeds without this power saving BS.

Settings were all highest with 16xQ CSAA no vsync. Tried Vsync on double/triple buffer, only makes it far worse. Tried 4x/8x MSAA, again fixes nothing.


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looks like a bottleneck to me
it goes up and down in a matter of seconds
CPU can't keep up with it

http://cyri.systemrequirementslab.com/cyri/ find Left 4 Dead 2 in the list
lets see if its in the minimum (make a screenshot please)
Edited by [T]yphoon - 4/18/11 at 1:20pm
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