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Your kids have legs, they can walk!


I suspect this downclocking maybe the issue. Don't forget the Task Manager shows you CPU usage as load/frequency.... it does not account for the fact that frequency can change.
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Actually, the % CPU usage seems to be based on the stock clock of the CPU and not on P-states. I noticed that when I set maximum processor state to 50% in powercfg. When the machine is on full load, Task Manager reports 50% instead of 100%.
powercfg limits the CPU utilization at the process or CPU level?


I am pretty sure it is the current frequency.....
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powercfg limits the CPU utilization at the process or CPU level?

I am pretty sure it is the current frequency.....
CPU level, I think. Had a chance to accidentally study behavior while benchmarking ePSXe (lol @ 600fps) and PCSX2. P-States, perhaps? It's for power consumption so it can't just be on the process level.

Try running a task (1080p video playback, perhaps? Star Trek is a good candidate) while monitoring % CPU usage on Task Manager with minimum/maximum processor state set to 100% then try it again while min/max set to 5%/50%. On my system, I noticed % CPU usage was the same no matter which one was selected leading me to think it's based on the stock frequency and not the current frequency (either that or frequency has nothing to do with the calculation).

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bloomstomb, open up CPU-Z and GPU-Z while playing YouTube... do frequencies drop and lag as you play the video?
http://gpuz.techpowerup.com/11/04/11/b7q.png

No, they spike up and stay spiked up at the same level, whether paused or playing.

You can see in the begining is exactly when I opened up the video, it remained spiked the entire time afterwards.
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http://gpuz.techpowerup.com/11/04/11/b7q.png

No, they spike up and stay spiked up at the same level, whether paused or playing.

You can see in the begining is exactly when I opened up the video, it remained spiked the entire time afterwards.
Video Engine Load = 0%. Video acceleration isn't working. What NVIDIA driver do you have installed? Try re-installing Flash 10.2.

Have you tried using Chome 11 Beta? It's got its own version of Flash built-in.
http://www.google.com/intl/en/landing/chrome/beta/
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Video Engine Load = 0%. Video acceleration isn't working. What NVIDIA driver do you have installed? Try re-installing Flash 10.2.

Have you tried using Chome 11 Beta? It's got its own version of Flash built-in.
http://www.google.com/intl/en/landing/chrome/beta/
Holy crap you are right!

OK it looks like the vid acceleration stops as soon as I go full screen.

Heres example 1 where Im not at full screen and playing it (while buffering) and I get this
http://gpuz.techpowerup.com/11/04/11/a.png

Then the instant I turn on full screen I get 0, this is from 2 different watchings but same thing happened in both (i accidentally turned off gpuz first time).
http://gpuz.techpowerup.com/11/04/11/8xx.png

Downloading that new version of chrome now, but do you think it could be a hardware problem?


To duck, I checked on the power levels, and when its choppy, its a constant 2700. It only throttles down when the vid is playing well.
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Rionora, you have nailed the problem right on the head!

Video acceleration works when video is first started, then it stops working when I go to fullscreen, THEN STARTS WORKING AGAIN WHEN I REWIND A LITTLE!

So this is why I am getting so much better playback, and why the cpu has so much less load to deal with when I rewind.

Unfortunately I have no idea how to fix this problem, as even the newest version of chrome uses the same flash I was using with other browsers.

Is this buggy ass adobe problem or could it still be hardware?

EDIT upon further testing , the same thing is happening on my other pc. I just never noticed it because its more powerful than this htpc.

ADOBE YOU PIECE OF SHT!!!!!


Can anyone else confirm this?

When you go full screen while playing 1080p video video acceleration stops working. THen when you rewind it a little video acceleration kicks back in.
Edited by bloomstomb - 4/11/11 at 3:36pm
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Unfortunately I have no idea how to fix this problem, as even the newest version of chrome uses the same flash I was using with other browsers.

Is this buggy ass adobe problem or could it still be hardware?

EDIT upon further testing , the same thing is happening on my other pc. I just never noticed it because its more powerful than this htpc.

ADOBE YOU PIECE OF SHT!!!!!


Can anyone else confirm this?

When you go full screen while playing 1080p video video acceleration stops working. THen when you rewind it a little video acceleration kicks back in.
Tried Transformers Trailer 1080p on my PC (Celeron E3300+GT 430):
  • Chrome 11.0.696.34/Flash 10.2.154.25
  • Firefox 3.6.16/Flash 10.2.153.1
  • Internet Explorer 8/Flash 10.2.153.1
  • Internet Explorer 9/Flash 10.2.153.1

Same behavior on Firefox and Chrome (DXVA not working on fullscreen until rewind). Seems to work fine on Internet Explorer 8, though. Couldn't test on IE9 since fullscreen automatically closes when the windows loses focus but it appears to have the same behavior as IE8.

Although, unless I was watching GPU-Z, I wouldn't even know hardware acceleration isn't kicking in. Even my lowly Celeron (Woldale 2.5GHz 1MB L2) was able to handle the video just fine. This is one reason why I won't go any lower than an Athlon II X2 or Celeron Wolfdale on my HTPC's. I'd like to not have to worry whether or not I have enough CPU power to play back a video in case hardware acceleration doesn't work.
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Have you actually enabled GPU acceleration in the flash player settings?
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Works fine for me in Waterfox (firefox 64-bit) Video engine loads does not drop when going into fullscreen.
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Mission 751 Bookshelf's Mission M73 Floor standing loudspeakers Mission 78as Dual 8" Active Sub Woofer - 250 watts 
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Intel Q8400 MSI P45 Platinum EVGA GTX 750Ti MSI GTX 560Ti 
RAMHard DriveCoolingOS
6GB DDR 2 800MHz (Kingston Hyper X and Corsair ... Samsung 840 120GB Coolermaster Hyper 212 (Rev 1) Windows 10 Insider 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
Samsung 1080p TV Saitek Eclipse Coolermaster GX750 Coolermaster CM 690II Black 
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Intel Core i5 3230m 2.6GHz (3.2GHz Turbo) Nvidia GT 635m 2GB 8GB DDR3 1600MHz Samsung 840 120GB 
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Blu-Ray Reader / DVD RW Windows 8.1 15.6" 1366x768 
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Samsung 840 Pro 128GB 2TB Seagate Barracuda 2TB Seagate Barracuda 640GB WD Blue 
Hard DriveOptical DriveCoolingOS
1.5TB WD Green Samsung DVD/RW Cogage Arrow [Lapped] Microsoft Windows 10 Pro 
MonitorMonitorKeyboardPower
Fujitsu SL3230t 1080p @75Hz Samsung UE32F5000 1920x1080 Saitek Eclipse Thermaltake Toughpower XT 675w 
CaseMouseMouse PadAudio
Coolermaster 690 II Black/White Advanced CM Storm Xornet Qsteel Asus Xonar DS 
AudioAudioAudioAudio
Quad 33 Pre-Amplifier (Pre-Production Unit) Quad 303 Power-Amplifier - 90 Watts RMS (Pre-Pr... Quad 303 Power-Amplifier - 90 Watts RMS (Post-P... Quad FM3 Tuner 
AudioAudioAudio
Mission 751 Bookshelf's Mission M73 Floor standing loudspeakers Mission 78as Dual 8" Active Sub Woofer - 250 watts 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsGraphics
Intel Q8400 MSI P45 Platinum EVGA GTX 750Ti MSI GTX 560Ti 
RAMHard DriveCoolingOS
6GB DDR 2 800MHz (Kingston Hyper X and Corsair ... Samsung 840 120GB Coolermaster Hyper 212 (Rev 1) Windows 10 Insider 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
Samsung 1080p TV Saitek Eclipse Coolermaster GX750 Coolermaster CM 690II Black 
CPUGraphicsRAMHard Drive
Intel Core i5 3230m 2.6GHz (3.2GHz Turbo) Nvidia GT 635m 2GB 8GB DDR3 1600MHz Samsung 840 120GB 
Optical DriveOSMonitor
Blu-Ray Reader / DVD RW Windows 8.1 15.6" 1366x768 
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