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Ok.. both are highly praised/highly recommended for gaming blah, blah, blah.

Assuming 100$ for the AD799s and 180$ for the Senns.

Would the senns be a reasonable step up or would it be better to go low budget with the technica's?

Bass is somewhat important.. Don't need overkill "kick to the head" bass.. but, I don't want a headset that is going to crap out on the low end..

Sadly any cans I see recommended for the low end.. are polar opposites to soundstage and well.. any other part of the headphones..
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Wait, the HD598 is only $180 now? Hmm...I only see the HD558 at the $180 mark on Amazon.

The way I see it, both the HD598 (if it's anything like its predecessor HD595) and AD700 (this I know for sure) would be lacking in bass. It's there, but it has neither impact nor quantity. That is just something I can't stand. The HD595 made me fell sleepy every time I put it on, regardless of amplification or not.

Since you're willing to put almost $200 into a pair of headphones, I'd advise you also look into getting a sound card.
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Originally Posted by Snow_Fox;13085240 
Ok.. both are highly praised/highly recommended for gaming blah, blah, blah.

Assuming 100$ for the AD799s and 180$ for the Senns.

Would the senns be a reasonable step up or would it be better to go low budget with the technica's?

Bass is somewhat important.. Don't need overkill "kick to the head" bass.. but, I don't want a headset that is going to crap out on the low end..

Sadly any cans I see recommended for the low end.. are polar opposites to soundstage and well.. any other part of the headphones..

180 dollars for a 598? Where? tongue.gif

Anyways, I have a pair of AD700s and I used to have the HD 595. Both are excellent headphones, but I paid nearly 50 dollars more for the Sennheiser.

What set them apart, for me at least, is that the AD700 had better soundstage and more accurate reproduction of mid-range. The Senheisser just sounded warmer and the bass slightly tighter.

For 100 dollars, I think the decision is easy. I have never heard the 598 personally, but I really do not think they are worth nearly twice the cost of a AD700.

You mentioned how soundstage and low ends are mutually exclusive. In that case, you should get the M50 and the AD700 and spend around the same as one 598.

The M50 is more bass heavy while the AD700 emphasis more on treble. smile.gif I think these two headphones will greatly complement each other depending on what you are listening to.
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I just got a pair of AD700s, yes the bass is lacking by default. But adding a 10-12 dB boost and setting 30-40hz cutoff on your soundcard does wonders.

With these settings I get the clarity and soundstage but also good punch bass that isnt flabby or muddy and doesnt drown out the mids.

I played quite a bit with the bass settings on my sound card and the default cutoff of 80hz just made the phones muddy once I added enough boost to get them moving.
    
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There is no room for a sound card so I am stuck with the internal...

Call me picky but, I really, really don't want to deal with two sets of headphones.. my desk is extraordinarly small and already has quite a bit going on in terms of clutter.

If the Senn had a decent bass bump it could really justify the extra cost to me..
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http://www.electronics-expo.com/make-a-store/item/SENHD598OB/Sennheiser/HD598OB/1.html

Well since it no matters to me either way.. if any of you are trying to snag the 598's at 180$ enjoy.
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FYI, those 598s are Used - Like New

I'm also looking at the 598s and AD700s, so I'm looking forward to more responses. I'll be powering them with a Pioneer VSX-819H-K home theater receiver.

What I'm also interested in learning is what types of music each headphone is catered to? All I hear is what headphones cater to a particular style of music and not the other way around.
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Don't buy the 598 unless your willing to buy an amp for them, I had them for a few weeks, and they were a mess on integrated sound. I now have the AD900s and they sound great on the integrated. Go for the AD700s you won't regret it.
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TBH, I don't see a point of getting any of those headphones if you don't have a decent sound card.
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post #10 of 21
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FYI, those 598s are Used - Like New.
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The box has been opened but the item has never been used before. Product comes in original box along with all original accessories.

Also, saw the deal on amazon.com earlier and said "includes full manufacturer warranty."

amazon took it down but, they kept it up on their website..

I realize some people can get picky about all of this stuff myself included but, I think most people don't care so long as it looks new and comes with warranty.

And being entirely honest here.. after working retail for a while.. I've learned that whether or not you realize it.. a lot of products are "open box" and sold as "new" especially if they aren't vacuum sealed..

And to everyone talking "sound cards" and "amps".

What is wrong with buying as able? Everything I've read states they will sound fine and get better as I add on.

I would think an enthusiast website of all places would understand upgrading is a never ending process..

Unlike some headphones.. they don't require an amp to run at all.. so what the hell is wrong with getting them, seeing how they work and then adding on later?
Edited by Snow_Fox - 4/11/11 at 3:59pm
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