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Which TN panel monitor would you suggest? I see a lot of people say TN sucks. I mean the Asus ms246 is pretty low in lag at 6.9ms and a 2ms GTG. Would a TN really be that much better? Basically I am looking for a good balance between response times and image quality. My old 36" Sony CRT was great for FPS, but it died and also was so big and heavy that it created its own gravity field.
The ms deal is a marketing trick

There is little to no truth in the numbers "2ms" or "5ms"

Just marketing.

The actual numbers are a lot higher. Somewhere near 10ms or so. Even with TN panels. And it only affects ghosting, not input lag.

The u2311 has very little ghosting and input lag that is lower than most TN panels. It's BETTER for gaming than a random TN panel.

If you need the FPS advantage, CRT is the only way to go.
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I hear ya. The results I am seeing though ar not from the manufacturer but from Third party testers. CRT is the best for FPS but the color and image just sucks so bad. I cant go back to CRT now. I am spoiled by the picture quality. I may pick up the Asus or the Dell though for just gaming purposes since it is the best all round way to go.

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The ms deal is a marketing trick

There is little to no truth in the numbers "2ms" or "5ms"

Just marketing.

The actual numbers are a lot higher. Somewhere near 10ms or so. Even with TN panels. And it only affects ghosting, not input lag.

The u2311 has very little ghosting and input lag that is lower than most TN panels. It's BETTER for gaming than a random TN panel.

If you need the FPS advantage, CRT is the only way to go.
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I hear ya. The results I am seeing though ar not from the manufacturer but from Third party testers. CRT is the best for FPS but the color and image just sucks so bad. I cant go back to CRT now. I am spoiled by the picture quality. I may pick up the Asus or the Dell though for just gaming purposes since it is the best all round way to go.
Nope. LOW QUALITY CRTs image sucks hardcore.

If you pick up a sony trinitron (only the high end ones), it will have better image quality than any LCD and it will also have a FLAT image, unlike low end CRT monitors. The downside? Those often weight 40kg, lol
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post #14 of 33
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Nope. LOW QUALITY CRTs image sucks hardcore.

If you pick up a sony trinitron (only the high end ones), it will have better image quality than any LCD and it will also have a FLAT image, unlike low end CRT monitors. The downside? Those often weight 40kg, lol
This guy is right - I knew a guy who was a world leading researcher in optoelectronics and field emissive displays, and he went on and on about LCD panels being a "step forwards in form factor and a step backwards in specification".

Unless you're hypersensitive, though, any modern quality TN TFT panel will suffice for FPS - it's only the hardcore few that still use CRT for this purpose.
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So, I'm reading basically everyone saying the 2211? Would anyone recommend the 2408?
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So, I'm reading basically everyone saying the 2211? Would anyone recommend the 2408?
Link to the 2408? Not really familiar with that one.


Either U2311h or U2211h would be wise though.
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post #17 of 33
Thanks for the info guys. Now I just need to learn how to flash my 6950 to a 6970 and how to properly overclock the I7-2600K with the asus sabertooth. I don twant to use the Asus suite 2 software since a lot seem to get poor results with it. I am really new to overclocking. I am not sure I even need to do it with this processor though.
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Thanks for the info guys. Now I just need to learn how to flash my 6950 to a 6970 and how to properly overclock the I7-2600K with the asus sabertooth. I don twant to use the Asus suite 2 software since a lot seem to get poor results with it. I am really new to overclocking. I am not sure I even need to do it with this processor though.
I used this to flash my 6950 with winflash - there are loads of sites that tell you specifically what to do (it's very easy).

I would recommend manually overclocking, always. The auto OC sets voltages too high, among other things.
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I heard winflash can work, but some have ended up with artifacts after. Is it just download winflash and run the program and your are done? Or do you still have to flash the 6970 bios from a usb?

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I would recommend manually overclocking, always. The auto OC sets voltages too high, among other things.
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Link to the 2408? Not really familiar with that one.


Either U2311h or U2211h would be wise though.
Correction, 2407

Not an ips(?), but is a 1200 vs 1080
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