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It'll most likely fix your issue. There is no "lucky" involved. There are still some people with issues after the firmware updates, but it's a minority of people have them and I have numbers/data to back that up.

I'll be posting them all soon, once I finish analyzing them.
LOL. Can't wait for this.

OCZ kept repeating less than 1% over and over again while boards all over the net were filling up with people having the bsod issue.

Do you suppose that revealing the true number would have any effect on sales? Naw, that wouldn't be a good reason to fudge numbers now would it?
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Well here's something interesting. I have read on several boards and posts that if people turn off all overclocking or custom CPU settings and leave everything on auto, it works. I gave it a shot, and low and behold up for over 24 hours with no problems. This is a first as my system would hang within 24 hours guaranteed, or BSOD while playing a game.
Edited by arterio - 9/18/11 at 9:01am
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Well here's something interesting. I have read on several boards and posts that if people turn off all overclocking or custom CPU settings and leave everything on auto, it works. I gave it a shot, and low and behold up for over 24 hours with no problems. This is a first as my system would hang within 24 hours guaranteed, or BSOD while playing a game.
When I flashed to 2.08, I put everything back to stock because OCZ said it OC would be the cause. Didn't help.

Does it make sense that an overclock that was stable for months with a C300 starts to bsod because a Vertex 3 is installed as the boot? Nope.
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LOL. Can't wait for this.

OCZ kept repeating less than 1% over and over again while boards all over the net were filling up with people having the bsod issue.

Do you suppose that revealing the true number would have any effect on sales? Naw, that wouldn't be a good reason to fudge numbers now would it?
Filling up? Hardly. Don't count the repetitive posts, too. You keep assuming that there are TONS of them, when there aren't, and then there are repetitive posters in there as well.

I just read a couple of threads going "I just bought an OCZ Drive. I'm getting BSOD and I have 2.06? Should I update?"

Yes..........

Should it resolve your BSOD issues on 2.11 or 2.09? Most likely...... but there is a slim chance it won't.

I never disagreed that there were not any issues, you just assume that there are more than there really is based upon a couple of forum boards with some threads.

I wouldn't believe that 1% however -- It was around when 2.06 was released. Not everyone upgraded to 2.06. Many people that use these drives in laptops or work computer, basically plug and go and had the stock 2.02 and they are still most likely running 2.02.

2.06 was a huge culprit, the 2.09-2.11 firmware is NOTHING but improvements for a vast majority. Not all issues were fixed, that's correct. But it's most definitely dwindled the ladder down.

You even state your drive is stable after running 2.09.....

Anyways, I'm still obtaining the data. I'll write a nice little guide up, like you did for the M4 vs Vertex 3.
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Filling up? Hardly. Don't count the repetitive posts, too. You keep assuming that there are TONS of them, when there aren't, and then there are repetitive posters in there as well.

I just read a couple of threads going "I just bought an OCZ Drive. I'm getting BSOD and I have 2.06? Should I update?"

Yes..........

Should it resolve your BSOD issues on 2.11 or 2.09? Most likely...... but there is a slim chance it won't.

I never disagreed that there were not any issues, you just assume that there are more than there really is based upon a couple of forum boards with some threads.

I wouldn't believe that 1% however -- It was around when 2.06 was released. Not everyone upgraded to 2.06. Many people that use these drives in laptops or work computer, basically plug and go and had the stock 2.02 and they are still most likely running 2.02.
Not counting any repetitive posts. The number of individual posters only and the fact that there are so many. Since I've been there since the beginning of this nonsense, too many people have had the issue. I don't care whether my number is correct or your number is correct. Either number is too many. You should try having sympathy for your fellow computer users instead of multi-million dollar companies.

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2.06 was a huge culprit, the 2.09-2.11 firmware is NOTHING but improvements for a vast majority. Not all issues were fixed, that's correct. But it's most definitely dwindled the ladder down.

You even state your drive is stable after running 2.09.....

Anyways, I'm still obtaining the data. I'll write a nice little guide up, like you did for the M4 vs Vertex 3.
Interesting that you say 2.09-2.11 was nothing but an improvement. In stability for some, yes. But the OCZ release notes said that 2.09 slowed down the drive. As-ssd benches confirmed this. 2.11 brought back some of the speed but is still not as fast as 2.06 was. I still have the as-ssd bench tests saved that prove it.

I find it very interesting that you keep blaming 2.06 as the problem since OCZ is saying it is not. In fact, Tony's statement linked below admits that OCZ does not currently have the answer but he leans more toward hotplugging being the culprit. He says 90% of the drives returned show no problem on test systems. You obviously must have some insider info that a main OCZ support tech like Tony isn't allowed to see.

http://www.ocztechnologyforum.com/fo...-Solid3-drives

It doesn't end well either way really. Either we eventually find out that firmware was the problem and OCZ lied to us for months. Or we find out that the drive's interaction with the board is causing it and cannot be fixed via firmware.

I'm looking forward to your writeup. I would hope you gathered info from several ssd builders like OCZ and Corsair as well as retailers like NCIX and Newegg or else your number will mean nothing. Relying on one source of data like OCZ would be like asking a car company if they make reliable cars.
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Quick update:

Recap... I bought 2 120GB Vertex 3 drives about 2 weeks ago now. They came loaded with the 2.06 firmware and were having nothing but problems. Random freezes, BSOD's, random reboots, etc. All the typical problems.

After doing some research, I realized that there were some settings in my BIOS that I hadn't adjusted to help these drives run smoothly. I also realized that my BIOS was not the latest version and that some sATA stability issues had been resolved in a later update.

Here's what I did:

1) Deleted the RAID-0 settings and unplugged my Vertex 3 drives.

2) Reset my BIOS and updated it to the latest version.

3) Installed a 40GB 7200RPM drive.

4) Setup the BIOS for that drive and installed Windows 7 on it, with all updates, Service Packs, and latest hardware drivers.

5) Shutdown PC, installed the SSD's as individual drives and made adjustments in BIOS for the drives (hot swapping for those drives on, SMART disabled). Disconnected the 40GB HDD.

6) Used the Parted Magic USB boot OS to wipe both SSD's. Shutdown the computer when both were completed.

7) Reconnected the HDD and booted into Windows 7.

8) Flashed the latest 2.11 firmware onto both drives.

9) Shutdown and disconnected the HDD.

10) Used the Parted Magic USB boot OS to wipe both SSD's again. Shutdown when both were completed.

11) Removed the HDD from the system, reconnected the Vertex 3 drives as I would normally on the Intel 6Gbps sATA ports.

12) Made changes in BIOS for the drives. Setting them to RAID, and adjusting power settings. Setup the RAID-0 array in the Intel utility.

13) Installed Windows 7 x64 on the drives.

14) Used this guide to configure Windows, turning off or on settings and features that would help make the drives perform as they should. Honestly that thread should be stickied in my opinion.

15) Installed all Windows updates and Service Packs BEFORE I installed any drivers or additional software.

16) Installed the system drivers, starting with my Chipset drivers, then moving to the Intel Storage drivers, and then the rest (gpu, audio, etc).

That's it.

System has been up for almost 48h with no BSOD, freezes, or weird reboots. Everything seems to be running great. I used to keep my computer on 24/7 when I had regular HDD's in it, and the plan is to do the same with the SSD's. If anything happens I'll be sure to post back, but so far (knock on wood) it seems to be working great now.
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Just another update. It's been well over a week since I did the updates mentioned in my previous thread and everything is running great. I have left my system on for 9 days (216 hours) straight and no BSOD, freezes, slow downs, or random reboots. It's been running flawlessly now.

Not sure where the problem lay before. I did so much at once that it's hard to say if firmware was the root cause, or if it was incorrect BIOS settings, or an old BIOS version with sATA stability issues. Who knows. But it's working great now.

I also found out that 2 days after doing the firmware upgrade to 2.11, OCZ released firmware 2.13. I don't plan on upgrading to this unless I start to encounter similar problems as before.
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Just another update. It's been well over a week since I did the updates mentioned in my previous thread and everything is running great. I have left my system on for 9 days (216 hours) straight and no BSOD, freezes, slow downs, or random reboots. It's been running flawlessly now.

Not sure where the problem lay before. I did so much at once that it's hard to say if firmware was the root cause, or if it was incorrect BIOS settings, or an old BIOS version with sATA stability issues. Who knows. But it's working great now.

I also found out that 2 days after doing the firmware upgrade to 2.11, OCZ released firmware 2.13. I don't plan on upgrading to this unless I start to encounter similar problems as before.
Glad to hear it Arterio. 2.09 and then 2.11 seemed to be stable for me as well. But as neither of us knows what really made it stable, I can't recommend these drives to anyone else to try.

It often seems OCZ's intention was to shift the blame to everything else to give Sandforce time to "fix" it. Less damage to the reputation that way as that's what all the OCZ fanboys parrot all over the place.
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Anybody find the solution for this crazy issues. I upgraded the firmwae to 2.13 and I still got stupid freezes. That really bad felling when you upgrade your rig spend over a grand and get disappointed like that and they tell me " well don't overclock " well you **** If I don't want to overclock I would buy a Mac :/
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Anybody find the solution for this crazy issues. I upgraded the firmwae to 2.13 and I still got stupid freezes. That really bad felling when you upgrade your rig spend over a grand and get disappointed like that and they tell me " well don't overclock " well you **** If I don't want to overclock I would buy a Mac :/
You have to do what I did. Buy an M4 and never buy anything OCZ ever again.

I find it hard to believe an overclock has anything to do with this drive crash. I've seen bsod from overclocking my ram and cpu and it's instant. The sandforce bsod takes 30-60 seconds to fully manifest.
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