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Originally Posted by Lt.JD View Post
Thanks for the low-down Tot. So where do you recommend I go for PSU reviews. These are just the sites I usually hit up for reviews in general.
[H]ard|OCP, JonnyGuru, KitGuru, Sweclockers, TheLab.gr, TechPowerUP, It OCP, Hardware Secrets, Overclock3D, PeakPower, PC Perspective.

TechPowerUp and TheLab.gr use the same reviewer now. Really knowledgeable guy.
PeakPower's reviewer also goes by Makalu on the Guru3D forums and only recently made his website.

No order really.

Other sites like PC Experience, Anandtech, SilentPC Review, Hardware Heaven, Technic3D, PC Max, Planet3D Now, TweakTown, & Zol have various issues with either testing methodology or the actual accuracy of the results.

Anandtech & Planet3D Now both use Martin Kaffei as their reviewer; and he tests at 25*C instead of 40*C or higher.

Hardware Heaven & SilentPC Review often give odd voltage results or ripple results which do not line up with what other reviews pull and some are just down right illogical results.

Technic3D and PC Max make their information very hard to understand (I read German, so it's not a language barrier.) They both sometimes leave out results.

TweakTown does 25*C testing and doesn't do minor rail ripple testing normally.

PC Experience does something a bit off, but I can't remember of the top of my head.

Zol's results are in question at times. Other times they don't actually do a review, but just a dissection.

Other sites have their issues as well.
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Originally Posted by GameBoy View Post
HardOCP, Kitguru, JonnyGURU and hardwaresecrets for English ones. I *think* Overclock3D have recently stepped up in PSU review quality as well, not too sure though.
OC3D has been good since June 2009.
Edited by Tator Tot - 4/13/11 at 1:10am
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post #42 of 108
I go to JonnyGuru, HardwareSecrets, and HardOCP for PSU reviews. ^ I will check out the other ones too now.
post #43 of 108
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Originally Posted by Riou View Post
I go to JonnyGuru, HardwareSecrets, and HardOCP for PSU reviews. ^ I will check out the other ones too now.
Not all are in English; and some are newer like KitGuru and OC3D.

PC Perspective has been around for awhile and had good PSU reviews for awhile. They were one of the firsts to use an electronic load testing setup.
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post #44 of 108
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Originally Posted by Phaedrus2129 View Post
Add HardOCP, HardwareSecrets, TheLab.gr, Kitguru, and ITOCP.
Added ^_^
 
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post #45 of 108
Thanx Phaeadrus2129 you're really looking after our interests..

Now what's up wit that "
No-name brand PSUs vs Known Brands: MAD testing

From this link: http://www.madshrimps.be/articles/ar...#ixzz1JOhu1Oxf
that you have posted on Tom's forum..

Do you really buy that CM Real Power M620 delivered 850W and 57A on 12V+ rails w/ 76% efficiency without burning down or overheating..

CHEERS..
     
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post #46 of 108
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Originally Posted by GameBoy View Post
HardOCP, Kitguru, JonnyGURU and hardwaresecrets for English ones. I *think* Overclock3D have recently stepped up in PSU review quality as well, not too sure though.
Yea, timetolivecustoms (tinytomlogon), is awesome.

He trys hard to give non bias.
post #47 of 108
this is not surprising whatsoever, money talks bull**** talks as well
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Surprised that thread over at Toms hasn't been deleted yet.
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post #49 of 108
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Yea, timetolivecustoms (tinytomlogon), is awesome.

He trys hard to give non bias.
Tom Logan is a troll who goes for hits. It's obvious sometimes (NZXT H2 Review) and more subtle other times.

Still though; he doesn't do the OC3D PSU Reviews. James Napier is the guy that does the OC3D PSU Reviews, though I don't know him; nor have I really talked to him.
Though he doesn't seem like the most knowledgable PSU guy, he's only made a few mistakes. Most of the time he does good reviews though.
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post #50 of 108
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Whats going on with OCZ? Hope nothing about their PSU's. The reviews on mine were great before I bought it...
Anand chewed them out over SSD's, so your PSU should be safe .

Guess I'll have to discount Anandtech's PSU reviews though since the above posters said they only do cold-box testing.

Anyways thanks for the info everyone.
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