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Originally Posted by fRingE View Post
Modem: Connects you to the internet. You can connect up to 1 device to the network with a modem.

Router: Routers are very fun for a few reasons. Routers connect multiple devices to the network, gives each device their own mac address and some routers have a built in firewall for protection on the internet. The routing functionality itself is to segregate a LAN from a WAN.

Switch: Switches are like routers without all the features. They connect more devices than what normal routers can connect.. i.e. like 8+ devices.

IMO. I run a Modem (Obviously lol), a Router and a Gigabit Switch. I use the Router for My PC, my mom"s PC and my Step Dad's PC. Then I hook a switch to the router to give me even more flexibility to connect more devices like Xbox 360, Printers (Unless you want them on a wireless network.) etc....

*Conclusion* Good Router, Good Modem, Good Switch and your set.

Sorry to be pedantic, but each device doesn't get its MAC address from the router, they get them assigned in the factory. The router assigns an internal IP address to each MAC address, and handles the communications between the WAN IP address(es) and the internal IP addresses.
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Sorry to be pedantic, but each device doesn't get its MAC address from the router, they get them assigned in the factory. The router assigns an internal IP address to each MAC address, and handles the communications between the WAN IP address(es) and the internal IP addresses.
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You will definitely need a router to share the internet connection between 2 PC's. I would suggest that you get a wireless B/G/N router to allow for expansion for laptops/printers/consoles/tablets/smartphones etc since the cost of a wireless vs wired router is very minimal. Should you add more devices that require hardwiring into the router, you can expand by getting a 4-8port switch and just linking it to a LAN port on the router.

The Linksys E1000 is a solid router on budget. It supports DD-WRT if you are interested in loading 3rd party firmware, has the B/G/N connections for wireless devices. Stock firmware has WPA2 encryption for security. I have one of these routers w/ DD-WRT firmware on it, setup as a wireless bridge. It has my roommates PC, XBox 360, and PS3 attached to it and hasn't needed a reboot since I put it in 4 months ago.
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I got one similar to this one and it works great:http://homestore.cisco.com/en-us/rou...VVviewprod.htm
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I have one kind of this and they are good. Wifi built in. No setting up or anything. Just connect up and live. Mine has 4 LAN ports, 3 free. You can put your PC on share and access it through compatible wifi devices too. i.e laptops. Though file sharing speed is limited to wifi speed.
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No setting up or anything. Just connect up and live.
Every router comes with this configuration out of the box.
It is completely terrible advice to give someone to 'just use it' since you will

1) Be using an unsecured AP
2) People can have free reign over your router with the default password.
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Ok lets clear some of this up, so you all get working properly first and foremost. In order to connect 2 computers to 1 WAN connect (Cable modem, in this case). It can be accomplished 1 of 2 ways. The easiest and preferred is via a Router. That however is not the only way, If the main computer has 2 NIC, this computer can act as the router by using Internet Connection Sharing.

No lets clear up some of the misinformation out there.

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In most cases a router is best, a switch would work as well but will offer much fewer features.
Yes a router is best. No a Switch will not work as well, it does not have DHCP functionality, which means only 1 computer will receive an IP address.

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Router, You need a router to hand out more than one local IP address

Most DSL modems have routers built into them (which can be hooked to a switch) but most cable modems only support ONE device, so you need to use a router to hand out IP addresses to more than One device.
Yes and no, it really depends on the cable company and most are cheap as hell and will just give a modem with no router capabilities.

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Originally Posted by fRingE View Post
Modem: Connects you to the internet. You can connect up to 1 device to the network with a modem.

Router: Routers are very fun for a few reasons. Routers connect multiple devices to the network, gives each device their own mac address and some routers have a built in firewall for protection on the internet. The routing functionality itself is to segregate a LAN from a WAN.

Switch: Switches are like routers without all the features. They connect more devices than what normal routers can connect.. i.e. like 8+ devices.

IMO. I run a Modem (Obviously lol), a Router and a Gigabit Switch. I use the Router for My PC, my mom"s PC and my Step Dad's PC. Then I hook a switch to the router to give me even more flexibility to connect more devices like Xbox 360, Printers (Unless you want them on a wireless network.) etc....

*Conclusion* Good Router, Good Modem, Good Switch and your set.
Routers partly correct. They are designed for breaking up broadcast domains (i.e. broadcast segregation). Routers do not assign MAC addresses, they can assign IP addresses if DHCP is turned on.

Switches do connect multiple devices together, however they are connected via 1 broadcast domain. A switch breaks up Collision domains where as a HUB is 1 Collision domain.
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Every router comes with this configuration out of the box.
It is completely terrible advice to give someone to 'just use it' since you will

1) Be using an unsecured AP
2) People can have free reign over your router with the default password.
By settings i didn't mean any windows settings. You obviously have to setup the routers configuration and all kind of security options in wifi page. I have mine and its protected. Dont be oversmart. No isp will provide him free internet.
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By settings i didn't mean any windows settings. You obviously have to setup the routers configuration and all kind of security options in wifi page. I have mine and its protected. Dont be oversmart. No isp will provide him free internet.
Oversmart? By saying don't use an out of the box configuration?

Try getting a clue before commenting on others.
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As others have stated you need a router. A basic (layer 2) switch can't do PAT / overloaded NAT.

You can get a decent router for ~$30 - $70.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...CE&PageSize=20
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