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I was wondering as I have just recieved my new GTX 470 (just waiting for the new PSU and the 2 Gelid Icy Visions) would it be worth it to get a 9800GT aswell?

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it won't keep up........for that a GTS450 minimum
    
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512Mb? or the 1024Mb?
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^ This, in games like Mafia II anyways.

In something like Metro 2033, it will keep up fine but seems almost worthless with SLI since there isn't a lot of PhysX in the actual playing.

A 9800GT can't even really keep up to one 470 in Mafia II, not that it doesn't provide more fps than without the 9800, but a stronger card would be advised.

Smallest mem (or cheapest version) possible, since it won't matter for PhysX.
    
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short answer: no

long answer: nooooooooooooo

why are you wasting your money with a 9800GT? you have TWO 470s. even one rapes physx.
 
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post #6 of 32
Don't do it. The 9800GT won't be fast enough and it'll essentially slow down your two 470s. It won't be able to do PhysX at the same rate at which the 470s will render frames, so the framerate will suffer.
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Don't do it. The 9800GT won't be fast enough and it'll essentially slow down your two 470s. It won't be able to do PhysX at the same rate at which the 470s will render frames, so the framerate will suffer.
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ok I won't buy one then if its not going to be worth it. There cheap so I thought id ask!
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post #9 of 32
If you are running on a 1080p monitor, I say use it for physx.

It will hinder a bit the performance over stronger cards ofc, but a couple of 470s is more than enough to give you the FPS you need with the 9800 as physx card.
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I wouldn't go out and spend money on one, unless you're REALLY into Mafia 2. That's the only game out there that's going to show a legitimate benefit. This is because of the way that in Mafia 2, certain physX functionality (the Cloth physX, to be precise) will run on the CPU unless you have a DEDICATED physX card. And even the strongest of CPU's don't handle this load all that well.

Additionally, there's the fact that, if you max it out, the rendering portion of the game is actually challenging enough that it's advantageous to have the full power of your SLI470's available for that task.

So other than Mafia 2, there's really no other physX game out for which it's going to be challenging for the 470's to handle 'double-duty' on.

Your cards will crush Batman AA maxed out even with physX turned on.

In Metro2033 the additional physX effects provided by running physX on gpu hardware (activated by checking 'advanced physX effects') are extremely minor, and honestly you wouldn't miss them in the slightest if they were turned off.

One thing I will share with you about running physX on an SLI set, though: You take a 'double-hit' from the physX load when you do so. Reason being is that physX can only run on one card in an SLI set, but the rendering speeds of the cards have to be synchronized. This means that the physX load that happens on the one card is effectively doubled, due to the non-PhysX card having to slow down it's rendering to match the speed of the physX card.

Just something to be aware of
    
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