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post #11 of 38
Quote:
Originally Posted by The Duke;13091057 
And...
The amount of cache a CPU has is often overlooked.

this

cache*cache*cpu speed=roughly it's speed points
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Originally Posted by DuckieHo;13091716 
You really have to look at benchmarks over the years to acquire the knowledge to just know. wink.gif

all in all
thats the best thing to do
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http://www.ehow.com/how_5104695_acquire-knowledge.html
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post #13 of 38
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Originally Posted by wongwarren;13091761 
Easy, just remember that Intel is always better in terms of raw performance if the AMD it's comparing against has the same amount of cores and frequencies and are of the same generation.

Thats not entirely true. AMD's Athlon 64 FX was the choice of all hi-end gaming system during its day. Nobody even mentioned Intel.
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Originally Posted by Krymore;13091808 
Thats not entirely true. AMD's Athlon 64 FX was the choice of all hi-end gaming system during its day. Nobody even mentioned Intel.

right cuz my 3dfx system vs gold leaders 3dfx amd 64 FX system
has my system coming out on top
make's the Athlon 64 FX better rolleyes.gif
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post #15 of 38
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Originally Posted by wongwarren;13091761 
Easy, just remember that Intel is always better in terms of raw performance if the AMD it's comparing against has the same amount of cores and frequencies and are of the same generation.

This is mainly true now, but as stated above AMD used to destroy Intel in both performance AND price
post #16 of 38
you still don't see that much difference in many games.... to my knowledge

ex: phenom 2 x4 vs Intel Sb
Edited by phantasmor - 4/11/11 at 8:05pm
post #17 of 38
Quote:
Originally Posted by DuckieHo;13091716 
You really have to look at benchmarks over the years to acquire the knowledge to just know. wink.gif


Agreed! Here's how I got my start. I new Pentium (75 MHZ) was better than a 486 dx2 at 66mhz many moons ago.

Now, there are alot more options.


Now, with some features, comparing amd is almost like apples to oranges.

When I was picking out my i7 920, I was looking for A, a quad core, B, Overclockability, C. l1, l2, l3 cache.

I wanted the most for my dollar. If I see a processor like the 920 compared to the 920, the only big dif I saw was name, and B, it had the same cache, and was overclockable.

And when I didn't know something I googled it, checked benchmarks, or even checked here. Tomshardware does some nice comparison charts.


And for my Apples to oranges comparison; although you can find amd's and intels with the same ghz rating; some have hyperthreading, some don't. some are cheaper, some are more. It depends on budgets.

I recommend getting down the basics, before you venture in the world of AMD vs Intel. They both have their strong points.
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post #18 of 38
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Originally Posted by DuckieHo;13091716 
You really have to look at benchmarks over the years to acquire the knowledge to just know. wink.gif

This. Three things to look for, performance, power consumption and features. As Duckie said, it takes years of watching and reading to "just know".
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post #19 of 38
Another factor that some people overlook is the Chipset it's mated to, the drivers for that chipset and how the CPU communicates with the rest of the computer (PCI-e channels, memory controllers, etc).
One could have an awesome processor, memory, GPU and hard drives, but if they are all plugged in to a "saturday night special" Mobo, then the performance will be limited.

It even comes down to the die architecture, Cores (how many, how fast and architecture etc), cache (how much, how many levels), memory controllers (all the idiosynchrocies to do with these).

I guess there is no digital answer, its more analog.

Best overall sum of its parts is the best you can do.

I'm not even going to start on cost v performance.
Edited by Doom - 4/11/11 at 8:34pm
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post #20 of 38
Quote:
Originally Posted by Full_Tilt;13091107 
Its ability to do stuff, and things as well.

^This. Both work well,though each are very different,one is faster in some things,the other faster in some other stuff.
It's like Ford vs. Chevy, BMW or Mercedes,Lexus or Infinti,Honda or Toyota.
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Originally Posted by 3dfxvoodoo;13091854 
right cuz my 3dfx system vs gold leaders 3dfx amd 64 FX system
has my system coming out on top
make's the Athlon 64 FX better rolleyes.gif
Uh,what?
A64 FX should be wiping the floor with that slow P4.
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Originally Posted by phantasmor;13091943 
you still don't see that much difference in many games.... to my knowledge

ex: phenom 2 x4 vs Intel Sb
SB is quite fast,but a AMD Phenom II X4 will play any game out there just fine as long as you have a decent graphics card.
Edited by Heavy MG - 4/11/11 at 8:44pm
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