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Acutally I was talking about why you continue to request gpu bound testing - I'm wondering if you will ever make a "point".
    
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Honestly were you expecting to beat 470s?

It seems like you were.



Btw my ram isn't running 6-6-6 @ 2133 (god I wish) its broken and runs single channel. CPU-Z doesn't read it right.
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I would absolutely NOT expect to beat MSRP $700 GPUs with MSRP $360 GPUs, but damn, I came within 81% of your score for half the GPU MSRP price Submitting that score, or is it not legit?
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This made my night Besides, money seems to mean less and less on this site. So what if your GPU's cost half as much, I see people on here spending triple that on just a CPU, and their not bragging about it.

OP. Your fine with your setup, it will do nicely for a long time!
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I would absolutely NOT expect to beat MSRP $700 GPUs with MSRP $360 GPUs, but damn, I came within 81% of your score for half the GPU MSRP price Submitting that score, or is it not legit?
Not to mention you don't have an extra card pushing Physix ( 9800GT in his sig).

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This made my night Besides, money seems to mean less and less on this site. So what if your GPU's cost half as much, I see people on here spending triple that on just a CPU, and their not bragging about it.

OP. Your fine with your setup, it will do nicely for a long time!
But his GPUs didn't cost half as much.

He got them at a discount price of $150 each.

I got mine for a the discount price of $182.50 each.

$300 vs $365

Your fanboys sure know what they're talking about just like you.

For instance MG thinking Heaven actually uses PhsyX.

Btw I only paid 21% more than you Can't beat that considering the low end gpus are always better price vs performance.
    
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ok :/ i thought my scores were normal till i saw damrick's single gpu score with a 6850, it's higher than my 560.. which was P4523 lol..http://i54.tinypic.com/vb0v6.jpg
I looked at your GPU overclock and couldn't stop thinking: did you try to lower the overclock to see how it goes ? I've heard that some Nvidia GTX5xx cards actually perform slower when pushed too much. And with 950Mhz core you might just be there. Try lowering to 925 and 900 and see how it goes. With a single mid-range card you should be fine on that CPU at those clocks.


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It's awesome that these AMD guys think I faked my results.

It just goes to show how much better one thing is than the other.

My 1090T bottlenecked my 470 at 900 core (pretty close to stock gtx 580 performance).

There is no question a Phenom II system will bottleneck a single high end gpu, and it is without question that a Phenom II system will bottleneck CF and SLI.

If you were buying a CPU today, the Phenom II is the last choice I'd pick. If you already have one and only have one GPU, I'd skip bulldozer and SB/IB, as it currently isn't worth it to upgrade.

If you currently have CF/SLI and a Phenom II I'd be hoping bulldozer does better as many of you are.

I have to say this has been one of the most entertaining threads around

Anyway, this post seems rather unbiased. It's more or less a fact. The Phenom II architecture is only as good as the Core 2 Quad 45nm chips. The only reason they don't get compared very often now is because Intel stopped making them at 3.2Ghz (for the Extreme Edition) and 3.0 Ghz for the regular version, but the one people went for was the price friendly Q9550, which is easily overclockable to the same 3.2 Ghz with 1600FSB (8x400, or even 3.4Ghz at 8.5x400) as the QX9770.

If you guys look here, you'll see the QX9770 wins most of the tests when compared to a Phenom 955 at the same speed. And it wins in the tested games. The same results would apply to a Q9550 overclocked to the same speed, with the same FSB.

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Produ...46.47.48.49.50


That being said, the i5 750 is about the same as a Q9550 @3.2 Ghz, and even loses in 3 out of 4 games.

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Produ...46.47.48.49.50


If you move up a bit, to the Core i7 950, it wins a lots of tests, but it still loses against a Q9550 @ 3.2Ghz in 3 out of 4 games.

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Produ...46.47.48.49.50

It's only when you move to the 2500k that you can see a clear win in games (it even wins against the i7 965).

So, as a conclusion, the Phenom II is at the bottom of the list for a new aquisition if you want to play games, and the first Core i5/7 Intel lineup doesn't fare that well either against the Core 2 Quad (a Q9550 at 3.2Ghz ties in games with a Core i7 965), so the choice is 2nd generation Core (2500k/2600k).
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wow, some people LOVE to stroke their epeens. haha its soo damn pathetic.

- Phenoms are old? yes

- Phenoms will bottleneck more than an architecture released afew months ago? yes

- Are phenoms slower than a newer architecture? yes

- Do any games not run at more than playable frames with a decently clocked phenom and a decent GPU? nope.

The point is besides benchmarking there really isn't that large of a difference in performance in GAMING, which is what we spend this money for (well most of us). if you're buying the latest stuff to brag about how much faster it is than what others are using then you are doing it wrong.

So to answer OP's question.
Will a phenom bottleneck a 560Ti? yes (mostly in benchmarking)
Will you notice it playing your games? NO.

this thread is pretty sad.
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I would absolutely NOT expect to beat MSRP $700 GPUs with MSRP $360 GPUs, but damn, I came within 81% of your score for half the GPU MSRP price Submitting that score, or is it not legit?
Reconfigure your cost ratio and performance ratio, I'll go ahead and submit this.

    
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- Phenoms will bottleneck more than an architecture released afew months ago? yes

- Are phenoms slower than a newer architecture? yes
Actually, they are also slower than the Core 2 Quads as you can see in the link I quoted in the post above.


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- Do any games not run at more than playable frames with a decently clocked phenom and a decent GPU? nope.
True.


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The point is besides benchmarking there really isn't that large of a difference in performance in GAMING, which is what we spend this money for (well most of us).

Well, as you can see in the graph above, a Q9550 at 3.2 (or a QX9770), beats a Phenom 955 BE by an expressive margin in games, so you don't have a point here. That is to say, it does make a notable difference, which is not to say he will notice it if he constantly gets above 40fps in games at the resolution and quality settings he plays.
 
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