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Because it was a small article and that was part of the "good". Perhaps taking the good with the bad and not parading around as if the Phenom II chips are without issue would cause less people like myself coming around trying to point out the holes?

I would say since I've never seen a Phenom II beat a i5/i7 in any gaming benchmark then the Phenom II is constantly bottlenecking.

We've already seen two low/mid end gpus get bottlenecked in this thread by over 50% on a Phenom II.

There are people who are ok with lower min fps, and just want to use one card. And for those people a cheap build with an x4 or x2 and a 2011 mid/low gpu would be more than enough. Then there are other people who when they purchaswe a new platform in 2010/2011 they want to be able to get the most out of it now, because later its probably only going to get worse.

Which actually puts the Phenom II x6 in a unique place as I feel over time when more programs start to use the extra cores it has it will make a comeback from the grave. This time next year we could have debates over Phenom II x6 vs Bulldozer x4 where the Phenom II is winning.

@purpleannex

Upgrade when you feel you need to, also I've only had SLI for about 2 weeks (first time) and I've run into SLI issues with Crysis 2 and AssCreedBrother. Solving both issues was as simple as importing the correct SLI info and away I went.

Since most games are console ports it usually doesn't matter, Intels C2D architecture came out in 2007 and though it clearly was improved the base still existed and even those chips are just as capable as Phenom II in modern gaming.

The i5-2500k is pretty fun, who wouldn't like to run four fast cores at 5.3GHz? I know I do. But thats not its only benefit, it also uses a lot less power. I actually found myself turning on TPU and EPU then using the OC Gene to hit 4.4GHz and leaving it there because I really don't need anymore power than that. Whereas coming from a Phenom II chip I had that thing balls to the wall 24/7 and even with a single card, and even then I knew despite my conviction for AMD it was holding me back. Each person is different and what they want is different as well. I had just built my first system in a long time after using laptops and started out with a Regor 245, tried the 555, tried a 965, tried a 1090T and loved it. After upgrading my 9800GT to a 470 I started to have my doubts though, and with the desire to go SLI I knew I personally needed to make a platform shift if I was going to do that. Lucky my DDR2 board died right as Sandy Bridge was coming out, I quickly sold the ram and cpu and ended up making out paying $10 for the DDR3 upgrade and nothing for going from a 1090T to a i5-2500k.
Ok Balla, find one post where I have said that Phenom II is as good as Sandy Bridge, wait, I'll save you the time, there isn't one. The only thing I have said is that the Phenom II is nowhere near as bad as you run around here making it out to be.

I've seen your benchmarks a hundred times and you know what? They don't mean a thing to me. I can still play any game out there with playable framerates, and that's all that matters.

You can continue to flaunt your 3d mark scores all you want and still, nobody cares.

You come around here talking down to everyone, and quite frankly, it's gotten old. Just because you got a great deal on your Sandy doesn't mean everyone will, and you absolutely fail to take that in to consideration. So for people that actually have to pay full price, waiting for Bulldozer is the best option. If Bulldozer offers something better for cheaper, I would kick myself for jumping on Sandy right now.

Whatever, have a nice day.
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One more thing. If you find a Sandy for a steal like Balla did, it would be stupid not to jump on that too. Ok, I'm done.
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This thread is ridiculous.....
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Well to be fair SB is pretty impressive, even 980x/990x chips on LN2 can't do what SB can do on air/water.

Top GTX 470 sli result on hwbot:



My score:


Its one of the reasons I don't care for HWbot/3DMark because they use an unreal amount of cores/threads in their tests.
    
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I love how BallaTheFeared goes thread to thread to troll... all day.


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This thread was a fascinating read...

the op was answered appropriately within a page or two
Basically he shouldnt be terribly bottlenecked in most games with his current clocks and gpu.

We are then treated to another fourteen pages of proof that a SB cpu will perform better...one anti-inflammatory post is all that is needed to make that point and even the staunchest amd fan I think would join me in saying to you Balla

No duh!
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You're right trulsrohk, the problem is a lot of people don't agree with what you said.
    
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Well to be fair SB is pretty impressive, even 980x/990x chips on LN2 can't do what SB can do on air/water.

Top GTX 470 sli result on hwbot:



My score:


Its one of the reasons I don't care for HWbot/3DMark because they use an unreal amount of cores/threads in their tests.
Meh, I'd take your cards over your processor. If you feel like giving them up, you know where to reach me.
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hehe, never

I just spent $200 today ordering a 360 rad and another waterblock so I can get them both under water

Not just for the 900+ core I'll be hitting, but to send all the heat they create literally right out the window!
    
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2500K is great but still has flaw, I had one I know. For $179 and another $159 for MSI P67 mobo, I was able to overclock to 5.0Ghz on air. It was fun getting to 5.0ghz and faster gaming experience. Only problem for me was the UEFI bios suck ass. Constantly getting dual boot, sometimes doesnt even boot to Windows. When enabled memory XMP, system would not boot. When manually set RAM frequency, it would dual boot then froze at POST. Basically lots of problems and lots of hassle with the new UEFI BIOS.
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