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Haha, I found this...

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I remember when I was one of you, and wasn't getting called a troll for stating the obvious frown.gif

Ahh here it is, I'm at 4050Mhz frown.gif

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Almost identical setup here, no bottleneck. most games do seem to push gpu right up to 99% with vsync off.
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Originally Posted by BallaTheFeared View Post
Haha, I found this...



I remember when I was one of you, and wasn't getting called a troll for stating the obvious

Ahh here it is, I'm at 4050Mhz

Its not a question of good vs evil see my sig rig I couldn't give a damn what company I use really, just performance per £. Right now that means sandy bridge, however all you are doing is clouding the issue, here, the op wanted to know if he was bottlenecked, we answered not really only in some cpu intensive applications. End of discussion.

we all know SB destroys all of amds current offerings, we all know it destroys the last gen of Core i7's too, the benchmarks for that are well known we dont need to see them again.

put you junk away stop trying to swing it about no one cares.
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You all realise this is an eternal wheel that will never be resolved?

A new cpu will be released that's doesn't get 100% usage because it's so powerful, a new gpu will be released that doesn't get 100% usage because no cpu an push it enough... round and round, it's nothing new.

All that matters is that you get good fps in your games, and you don't get input lag. Arguing about one side getting 100fps while the other only gets 80fps is really stupid. We know theres a difference, fair enough, does it matter at that point? No.
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post #56 of 166
Its not really odd that you seem to think just because you believe it bottlenecks in some cpu intensive games that everyone else does.

I'm sort of jaded from people who seem to think their thought process is shared by all, sadly though if you took the time to actually read the thread instead of attempting to berate me you'd see a lot more nos than yeses.

Educating people is what I'm trying to do, its not the same as what you seem to think I'm doing. Perhaps you'd understand that if you started out with a Regor 245 and believed the "no" people every time you asked if upgrading to a higher end AMD cpu would solve your problems because your cpu wasn't doing what you wanted it to do.

I guess it takes another level of person to believe someone trying to show there are problems even with a single mid ranged gpu on current AMD processors is just trying to show off some crappy $225 cpu that isn't in the least bit impressive or status empowering.

Put your iPhone away, nobody cares and its clouding your viewpoint.


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You all realise this is an eternal wheel that will never be resolved?

A new cpu will be released that's doesn't get 100% usage because it's so powerful, a new gpu will be released that doesn't get 100% usage because no cpu an push it enough... round and round, it's nothing new.

All that matters is that you get good fps in your games, and you don't get input lag. Arguing about one side getting 100fps while the other only gets 80fps is really stupid. We know theres a difference, fair enough, does it matter at that point? No.
Agreed, but I don't think its for us to decided what is and isn't important to another person. I think its our job to show what it is and isn't and for them to decided if it does or doesn't matter to them.

The question was, "Is there a bottleneck".

The answer is yes, let us show you where, and how much, and here is how it will affect you. Based on that information they can make a decision on if they feel they need to address the issue, or let it go as not mattering.
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I guess it takes another level of person to believe someone trying to show there are problems even with a single mid ranged gpu on current AMD processors is just trying to show off some crappy $225 cpu that isn't in the least bit impressive or status empowering.

Put your iPhone away, nobody cares and its clouding your viewpoint.

I dont own an iphone or any other apple products, my reference to your junk wasn't suggesting you think your $225 processor is a status symbol it was in reference to your constant aggressive attitude and I'm better than you posturing towards others in the thread. Get that chip off your shoulder man.


The thing about bottlenecks are they always exist and guess what they move dependent on the situation/program in lower resolutions or AA/AF settings you are likely to become cpu blocked, at higher res with AA/AF you will likely be gpu limited or you could even be vram blocked. It is far far more complicated than the simple thing you are describing, however for the purposes of the ops question he has no significant bottleneck.
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I don't have a chip, I have experience with this forum telling people that their cpus aren't bottlenecking and buying different AMD cpus trying to get "more" from my system.

We already have enough people telling him no, or yes, or "no significant".

I'm not here to label anything, I'm here to show it. I'm here to help another forum member learn to test his rig to isolate the bottleneck and allow them to decide for themselves if is significant or not.

You may not feel its significant, but what if he cares about getting the most from his system? What if hes more interested in submitting results to hwbot than playing games? What if hes thinking about going SLI so he can max out Metro 2033? I don't really know, and nobody here even asked. I don't assume to know what the OP may or may not feel is significant, all I'm trying to do is present facts, back up my statements, and allow the OP to decide for himself.
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do you people believe this "benchmark" is legit ? i dont think so
4memory channels and very low score, very low.
    
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we all know SB destroys all of amds current offerings, we all know it destroys the last gen of Core i7's too, the benchmarks for that are well known we dont need to see them again.
And we also know the AMD CPUs have much smaller prices delivering decent gaming performance ,even botlenecking as you like to call it.Whats over 60 FPS is not a bottleneck in my opinion.
   
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